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John Cashman: All right everyone. Welcome to episode three of Niners I’m John joined by brother Tim.
Tim Cashman: Hello.
John Cashman: My
Brother from another mother. Brian,
Brian Caynan: Hey
John Cashman: Let’s talk some Niners. How’s everybody doing?
Brian Caynan: Excellent.
Tim Cashman: Not too bad. 97 days, I think, until kickoff.
John Cashman: I thought it was 80.
Tim Cashman: I think the real kickoff, though.
John Cashman: Oh, the real kickoff.
Tim Cashman: The real kickoff.
Yeah
John Cashman: So we’re certain amount of days. We all celebrated Father’s Day,
Tim Cashman: Happy Father’s Day to everyone out there.
John Cashman: Here we are talking Niners. So today we’re talking 2023 offense, which could be good. So, Brian, how, how are you feeling one to 10 on, uh, Niners offense this year.
Brian Caynan: You know, I think generally I’m, I’m pretty positive on the Niners offense, they brought back probably a lot of their weapons back, so there isn’t really a big drop off there.
You know, other than the quarterback situation, I think their offensive weapons are gonna be much intact
I think we’ll probably go into this, but I think the o-line is probably that needs to be worked on.
But yeah, I’m pretty positive on the season, and making the playoffs.
John Cashman: And Tim>
Tim Cashman: Well, uh, who’s gonna be quarterback? Well, start with that
All right. Well, I think that’s gonna be a pretty good position that the 49ers gonna have to figure out before we get into week one.
John Cashman I know one thing. It’s not going to be Jimmy Garrapalo.
thing. Jimmy Olo
Tim Cashman: No, it’s gonna be Jimmy.
He won’t be off to this side of a field throwing throughout all training camp while we wait for the trade that never took place.
Brian is now holding up a bobblehead.
Brian Caynan: That was Jimmy G
Tim Cashman: But no, I think that, I mean, obviously it’s obviously the most important position on the field. And I know that there has been a lot of positives coming out of Brock Purdy’s Rehab, but until he gets on the field, we’re not gonna know. And I can’t assume, uh, Shanahan is not going to play him much, if at all, in the preseason.
And I think this is gonna give Darnold or the Trey Lance an opportunity to really shine. We have not seen Trey Lance, much at all in the two years he’s been with the 49ers. Of course there’ve been health problems, but I’m gonna start with that one. For the offense, I think it’s gonna be a very interesting quarterback competition.
I think Trey Lance is gonna have every incentive to prove to any of the doubters or the naysayers and to himself and his coaches that he deserves to be on the field. And he’s got three preseason games to do it.
John Cashman: Well, I’m actually gonna take fairly optimistic tone. I’m actually feeling better about the offense than I am about the defense. this offense could really be truly special.
Brian Caynan: Okay
John Cashman: Brock Purdy is going to be just fine. But the amount of sheer weaponry that the Niners have now should really blow the top off of this offense.
And I can’t think of an offense that we’ve had in a really long time that is this stacked with weapons. So overall, I’m feeling 10 ish on this offense this year. But I think, like you said, I think the real issue, is quarterback, so let’s talk qb. I think Timmy brought up an excellent point. Purdy was getting it done. He was a surprise in my mind, and this might be blasphemous, he was Montana esque
A small little guy who was delivering really big plays and you know, unfortunately he had that, that injury. But I really think he could be the guy if he stays. Obviously with the caveat, if he stays healthy and with his rookie contract, he has now for like the next three or four years, and the amount of weapons he has, he could be really, good this year.
So, what are you thinking about Old Brock Purdy in the QB room?
Brian Caynan: I’m high on him too. John. I do think he’s been a leader in the games, which Trey Lance probably wasn’t given as much opportunity to do so, but he’s proven himself. Brock Purdy within that last games from, was it from the Dolphins? The Dolphins game, all the way to the end of the, the playoff run. He’s shown himself in a lot of really difficult games, really tough situations. So yeah, if you can stay healthy, you know, there’s a chance. We’re going back to the Super Bowl,
John Cashman: Yeah. And there was that, that thing when Randy Cross was doing one of the Super Bowl 16 or 19, you know, things on NFL where he
Tim Cashman: Americas game,
John Cashman: Where he said, you know, Joe Montana, what he brought to Bill Walsh’s system was the ability to riff.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: I kind of feel that’s how Brock Purdy is.
He’s got the Shanahan system, but he’s got a way to riff on it and make those plays that they really weren’t expecting. He did that a lot last year. Now there’s gonna be tape on him now, who knows? But I just. I just think he’s really gonna be good. He just kinda has that it qualities When, when Jimmy came in against the Seahawks that one time, you know, taking out, CJ Beathard, you saw him like, that’s the guy. Start him next week against the Bears.
Tim Cashman: You bring up an interesting, I’m gonna interject here, John. There’s a great interesting comparison between Brock Purdy and Jimmy G. Both quarterbacks came in mid-season, both led their teams on winning streaks, both had very high expectations going into the following year. Now, Garopalo they started out one and one, and then they go into Kansas City and then there’s the ACL
So there’s gonna be a lot more scrutiny and a lot more of a spotlight on Purdy. And it’s gonna be interesting to see how he handles it. We’re gonna have to watch to see how he handles the new pressure. He is gonna have a lot more scrutiny on him from the media, from the fans, from the press, and from Kyle Shanahan.
So gonna be interesting to see if he can make that next step.
John Cashman: Well, yeah, and you bring up a good point because obviously Jimmy G had high expectations coming into that year, you know, and tears an ACL. And then we had J and Nick Mullen for the rest of the year. But we have a pretty decent quarterback room, starting with of course, Trey Lance.
Tim Cashman: Oh, let’s not forget Darnold.
John Cashman: We won’t, we’ll get to Sam, Trey Lance gets to go first becasue Trey Lance has been there longer. So obviously the news coming out on Trey is he’s got a whole new worked throwing motion, a lot more compact. Look a lot better, but I just don’t see it with Trey Lances. And I know it’s the reps.
I think he should have stayed in college a little bit longer, but he always looks like he’s a little bit deer in the headlights, like the game’s moving a little bit too fast. And I really saw last year with the preseason, when they played the Texans on what is supposed to be the dress rehearsal, and I was like, oh I don’t know about this.
Which was why I was so excited when Jimmy came back as the backup quarterback. So I really hope we see different Try Lance one where the game’s not moving too fast and one obviously where Kyle Shahan is not running in between tackles.
Tim Cashman: Agree on that,
John Cashman: you know, I just, I just, I think the jury’s out on him. I just, I just don’t see it. Thoughts
Tim Cashman: Brian. Go
Brian Caynan: All right. I’m not there yet. I do wanna see him succeed. So, I mean, if you were to com compare the two to me. Trey Lance versus Brock Purdy.
You’re gonna go with Brock Purdy, you know, nine times outta 10. I kinda am under the belief if he can look good. I do think we need to get something back for him and, you know, if he can be moved somewhere else and we can get some of the draft picks that we traded to get to, to release, or to get him in the first place.
That’s what I’m kind of thinking is the best case scenario for the Niners on him. But I’ve always liked him. He’s, big, he’s strong. He’ll be good for someone.
John Cashman: Yeah, seems athletic really good guy.
Brian Caynan: Yeah,
Tim Cashman: Athletically. Yeah, I don’t think there’s any doubt about his capability or what he can bring to that position. But I agree with John. I really was not happy with Shanahan’s play call and we saw a lot of, in between the tackle quarterback run, design quarterback runs against the bears and of course lead to the injury against the Seahawks and Shanahan was criticized for that, and I believe rightfully so on those play calls, I didn’t see what the necessary benefit that you were getting outta running those plays like that. I mean, Trey Lance at this point, he’s going into his third year. I would say this is make or break for him with the 49ers.
I don’t see him having much trade value at this point, unless, You know, stranger things have happened, but if he does not perform or even perform well, I’ll just say if he does not perform well or does not perform at all, meaning he’s staying on the sideline with a clipboard.
I see the Niners and Trey parting ways at the end of the year.
John Cashman: Yeah, I remember Barrows brought up a pretty good point of it’s still a big time cap hit, you know, so I was like, they’re not, gonna move on because, you know, they end up sucking up the cap. So they’ll keep ’em for this year. But after that I don’t see it.
Tim Cashman: But like I said, I think he’s gonna have an opportunity in the preseason. And that’s where he’s gonna have the best opportunity to make his case.
John Cashman: And there’s been flashes, like, I mean, he came out, it was his rookie year. I went down to Tim’s house. Like, Hey, well let’s watch the first preseason game together and see what Trey does and eat steak. You know, and he just uncorks to, was it Sheffield? across his body all the way downfield, touchdown.
Then, the game against, was it the, at that point I think, was it the Washington football team where Trent Williams basically took out one whole right side and he ran around the end, like fourth down. It was like a Sunday night
Tim Cashman: Oh, that was against the Packers where the 49ers lost. Yeah, it was the Packers.
John Cashman: Yeah, But again, like he’s showing these flashes, he just doesn’t look like Lamar, Jalen Hurts where he’s got full control being able to throw and run the ball.
So, yeah, I’m really curious. I think the biggest preseason games he’ll be like, number one on my list of people I wanna watch during preseason is what, how Tre Lance looks. he doing? I mean, there’s always so much you can get out of the training camp reports, but when you see it actually live, I think that’s gonna be the big either Aha moment, he’s got it.
Or, all right, well let’s move on
Tim Cashman: I agree and I, and I think, well, I think we can say this for certain, the niners will keep three quarterbacks on their roster. There’s no question about that.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: Now that they can, they can carry, they can dress three. So, which moves on to the one of the more interesting pickups, Sam Darnold. You know, Sam, watched him a few times. He’s been with some horrible teams.
You’re never, you’re never going to the playoffs just because your ownership is that bad. And he’s always been a gamer. know, he is played hurt. thrown himself out there. He’s obviously pretty good pinpoint passing wise. So I kinda wonder, and this is gonna be another preseason watch for me, if he’s gonna be Jimmy 2.0 or the Josh Rosen experiment.
Tim Cashman: I thought you were gonna say the Brian Hoyer, uh, 2.0.
John Cashman: Oh no, Brian Hoyer. Why’d you bring him in Shanahan? At least he found Jimmy
Tim Cashman: We didn’t have a quarterback.
John Cashman: We did They got rid of Kap. Sorry, Kap. You have to go. Oh, well. But anyway, yeah, I’m really curious to see how Sam does. I think he could be pretty decent. It’s gonna be a question of how quickly he can get the offense. And if he gets his opportunity. Cause we all know Niners and quarterbacks, especially lately, been a little iffy.
John Cashman: Well Brian what do you think about Good old Sam
Brian Caynan: So I think they brought in four quarterbacks. They were gonna have Brock, Trey Lance, and then whoever QB three was, so Sam Darnold. And then, Brandon Allen. So I think they’re just using one of those two guys as the insurance policy.
I listen to Sam Darnold’s mom on another podcast, and she’s just absolutely great. She’s on the Your Mom podcast with, Christian McCaffrey’s mom,
Tim Cashman: Well what more do need.
John Cashman: Your Kid’s great. No, your kid’s great.
Brian Caynan: You gotta listen to that one. That’s pretty funny. No, I think, I think Sam can be good. These four quarterbacks as even in there, I think they’re gonna take the team to the playoffs regardless, even if it’s Brandon Allen or Sam. Darnold. So I think they’re just using him as a really good insurance policy.
So if Brock Purdy doesn’t come back for the first week, obviously Trey Lance, and then I think Sam Donald’s gonna be a pretty good backup for the Niners. So,
Tim Cashman: I’ll just throw one little tidbit in on, on Sam. remember I don’t remember what bowl game it was, but USC was playing Ohio State. And there was before we were gonna have one of the top draft picks coming up, it was, it was Kyle Shanahan’s first year, and Sam just kind went out there and just smothered by Ohio State Defense, Niners Nation tweets, “Right now Every 49 fan is breathing a sigh of relief that we’re not gonna draft him.” So anyway, how times have changed, how things turn around, you know, you never know who you’re gonna wind up with. But anyway, I, I think we have probably beaten the quarterback conversation and I’ll just go out on the limb, thhere might be other positions we should talk about on your offense.
John Cashman: Yeah. Before we get on to, we gotta give Brian Griese some props
Tim Cashman: Absolutely.
John Cashman: When they hired him, I’m like, why are you bringing in a booth guy? I know he’s your buddy, but he did a great job,
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm
John Cashman: We have three quarterbacks, you know, start and do that. Well, just shows how good a coach he is. You know, he kept him, he kept him in the lane, like, this is where you’re gonna be, Jimmy.
This is where you’re gonna be Brock.
Tim Cashman: You said three quarterbacks.
John Cashman: Lance was there you know and the lane unfortunately was between, you know, Mike McGlinchy and Spencer Burford. So, you know, someone’s gonna have to run the ball. Luckily we have a really good guy named Christian McCaffrey, and it was funny because I was watching the US open yesterday.
The guy who won Wyndham Clark went to the same high school as Christian. Apparently they’re really good friends and I’m like, well, I guess I have to cheer for him because it’s Christian McCaffrey. I really am curious with a full season. How he is going look. And with Bobby T back, full-time running back coach, who’s good, has coached Hall of Famers, like Terrell Davis, if he is going to have some kind of MVP like season.
Did he break Craig’s record of a thousand thousand ?
Brian Caynan: I don’t know
I don’t think he did
Tim Cashman: I don’t know
John Cashman: That’s within the realm of possibilities
Brian Caynan: I think for him, it is, yeah, he definitely the, has the ability to do that. Um, I, I just don’t know. I think. The way that the 49ers play, I don’t think they’re gonna wanna risk him getting hurt, trying to do both, in the way that they play. But he has the ability, no doubt, if he was on a weaker team, he obviously, I think he did that right for, or he was close to doing that for Carolina.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, he also had a history of injuries with Carolina, so I think that gives you room to pause to use him. You know, obviously in the best situations, and we have seen Shanahan when he finds something that works. to use it over and over again. We saw that with Deebo a couple years ago where it was just Deebo in the backfield.
Deebo split out Deebo lining up next to George Kittle, Deebo the water, deebo, know, coming in a quarterback, Deebo Deebo. It’s just like, don’t we have other players? But maybe, but, uh, wait
John Cashman: We didn’t.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, I you know, the 49ers have always been able to produce just, you know, guys who come in and it’s, it’s been a little more of running back by committee.
And now that you have a guy like CMC who can really just take your offense to the next level, as we saw last year. But what I’m really looking to see is who is gonna be number two? If you have a one two punch, obviously the first is CMC, who’s gonna be two? I thought with last year Elijah Mitchell was going to be that second punch, and unfortunately Elijah still has injury problems.
We saw flashes of it in the Arizona game where they played in Mexico City. We saw flashes of it when they played the Seahawks in the wildcard, but, I’m gonna say if there’s gonna be a compliment it’s going to be Jordan Mason.
After reading a great article in the Athletic on him, and we saw flashes from Jordan last year when he would come in and the game would be kind of, he’s kinda like he was, he was built as your relief pitcher. Where you just need to grind the ball and grind the game down.
John Cashman: Brian what are you thinking?
Brian Caynan: I do think there’s wiggle room for two. I’m gonna lean towards Elijah Mitchell first, just because I’ve seen him more and I’ve seen what he can produce. Yeah. I’m worried about his injuries, so I think he’s been hurt every year that he’s been with the Niners to some degree. Um, I can’t remember the last year.
I’m gonna lean towards Elijah Mitchell first. As RB two, that was what I would go with.
John Cashman: Yeah, I’m actually more on, on Tim’s side. I think Jordan Mason has a little bit more heft to him than Elijah Don’t get me wrong, Elijah’s great, knows exactly what holes to hit. Runs without fear, The durability is a really big concern, for him. And you’ve also got, but Jordan Mason, as Tim kind of points out as a grinder, this is gonna bring back one bill ring.
The guy who would come in and just close the game out by those grinding runs at the end of the game.
Tim Cashman: I was thinking more Tom Rathman myself, but Okay.
John Cashman: Well I go way back into the archives for the bill ring reference. But then you’ve got, which the Niners always seem to do, especially with, with Coach Bobby t you’ve got all these kinda unsung guys and they spent a third round pick on Tyler Davis Price, showed a little flashes there, sprained ankle, I think in the preseason, never really seemed to get on track.
Brian Caynan: Right.
John Cashman: So he’s gonna be another preseason follow. It’s like, okay, like can you go, are you the guy? And the one question that I don’t really know the answer to for both Elijah Jordan and Tyler Davis Prics is who can catch the ball?
Tim Cashman: Good question.
Brian Caynan: Yeah
John Cashman: That’s another preseason thing. Like, because we know CMC can, that’s gonna be part of the offense. Then you get into these undrafted guys always seem to be part of the mix.
Brian Caynan: Yeah
John Cashman: And Kalan Le And you know, you just get these guys that they find do end up doing a really good job and it’s.
A lot of it, I’m sure is coaching with, with Bobby Turner, also it’s just the scouting of, who these guys are and the running back by committee. So have a pretty deep running back room now. We’ve had that before
Tim Cashman: And we’ve had to use it before.
John Cashman: Had to use it. We had Raheem, we had this guy, we had that guy, and then in week two we got like nobody Yeah
So yeah, I think it was like Barrows and Lombardi’s, like who wants to be a 49ers running back? They just go down. But I just, that’s gonna be a really interesting position to watch of how they manage that behind CMC. Because obviously he’s the top guy and much they load manage him, because you’re looking at hopefully 20 to 21 games of football and. gonna be a real big question mark, but any other thoughts on running backs?
Tim Cashman: I think it’s just gonna depend on, you know, how many defensive linemen they’re going to keep, how many receivers are they gonna keep? It’s all just gonna connect out to how many people can you keep on your roster? many people can you keep on your practice squad? So you know, you may see, two of the individuals you mentioned They come in and they, you know, they, we just find a nice spot for him on, on the practice squad.
And I should know this reason, this running back off the top of my head. But, he was a great practice squad pickup. Uh, who am I missing here? He was in 2019. He was just a guy who would just, would just he come, come, he seemed to come in and just be able, you know, make a play here and there. Who, who am I thinking of?
Tim Cashman: I’m actually upset with myself. I don’t know this.
Brian Caynan: let me look that up.
John Cashman: Use the Google. Anyway,
Tim Cashman: It’ll come over in a second
Jeff Smith. Smith. That’s who I was thinking of
Brian Caynan: Okay
Tim Cashman: Sorry Brian. Go ahead,
Brian Caynan: I think one thing that I kind of just was reading about, you know, the running backs. Jordan Mason obviously has a leg up. He’s gonna make the roster. He does special teams, so he does that well. Just reading in some of the stuff about kind of those two undrafted free agents who they were looking at.
That guy, is it Awa? He can contribute on special teams, from what I understand from his prior experience in college. I think, I dunno what team he played for. and then the other guy is La Laur, he went to Marshall. Um, so, but I don’t know if he’s gonna be on the roster or anything, but he looks, from what I can tell, he’s got 16, 1500 yards and 16 touchdowns.
During his time in college.
John Cashman: I mean, it’s gonna come down to watching these guys in the preseason who just kind of starts to stand out. but you know, somebody’s got a block for these guys. That’s what I’ve heard. let’s talk some o-line.
Brian Caynan: Nice segue.
Tim Cashman: I thought, I thought, we were gonna go to receivers. I thought we were gonna go to receivers. Okay. We’ll, talk the o-line
John Cashman: Let’s talk O-line talk
Tim Cashman: All right
John Cashman: Up front. Talk about the biggest guy up front, Trent Williams.
Tim Cashman: I think Niners Nation put it best when we saw a couple of blocks or or just some smack downs from Williams and even 49 fans were like, I know we don’t like the Eagles, but that man does have a family and probably some children too, so,
John Cashman: Well, Trent obviously, from Washington where he, I don’t think he played, maybe he played in one playoff game to now with the Niners. He’s played two NFC championships. He’s played in some some epic games. I mean, the Snowglobe game in Green Bay.
Tim Cashman: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: I think Trentis just like, I’m want my ring and then I am leaving, I am outta here.
Tim Cashman: Yeah
John Cashman: Because he’s in his
Tim Cashman: 13th year
John Cashman: He is getting up there. But yeah, as you said, when, when he decides to block somebody, you best be getting out of the way. trying.
Tim Cashman: When he has a full head of steam,
John Cashman: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: Look I’ll be honest, if I saw Trent Williams running full steam ahead of me, I would just either hit the ground or run the opposite direction and, and you know, he would probably catch me too.
John Cashman: I would make a business decision. Why are you running out of bounds?
Trent Williams!
Tim Cashman: Trent Williams..
John Cashman: Yeah. so obviously he’s the stud. We know how good he is. and then you get into the, interior line.
Tim Cashman: Aaron Banks
Brian Caynan: Well, just really quick on Trent Williams. I know he had contemplated retiring, right? So at the end of last season, so you’re right, John. I do think if he gets that ring, He is retired, he is gone. And you know, thank you for your services, but he is one quality guy.
John Cashman: Je’s taking the Randy Cross. I’m outta here guys. I’m retiring on top.
Brian Caynan: Yeah
John Cashman: But then you gotta move inside. Aaron Banks. Very much a big surprise last year.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: The year before we’re like, not such a good pick. He played a little bit on special teams and then he was great. I don’t know what, you know, I don’t know his stats in terms of, of pressures, but anytime you don’t hear somebody’s name in the offensive line, that’s a good thing.
Tim Cashman: That’s a good thing.
John Cashman: And then you. Move a little to the right and you’ve got Jake Brindle, who was an AllPro alternate and I think Alex Mack must have given him the crash course of how to be an AllPro center while he was there because it didn’t look like we missed a beat with, Brendel as the center and in the Shanahan system, the center calls so many of the blocking line assignments and the audibles, it didn’t look like we missed a beat. I mean, Alex Mack was great. And it certainly was an upgrade over the, the horror show from the year before. and we lost obviously Weston Richburg, who was really good until he went down against the Saints.
But Jake Brendel looks like he’s gonna be a guy who’s gonna stay, and looks like it was a four year contract.
Brian Caynan: Yep. They kept him on for another four more years. So yeah, that’s, that says something. Yep.
John Cashman: We move one more over. We got Spencer Burford, uh, again, super solid split time, uh, with the name escapes me. Oh, Daniel Brunskill, who’s now with the Titans.
Brian Caynan: Yep.
John Cashman: Didn’t hear a lot out of, out of that part of the line. Never heard like, oh, Aaron Donald against Spencer Burford.
You know, they seem to do pretty well.
And then we get, okay, let’s just get
Tim Cashman: Let’s just get to the part where we all are concerned about right
tackle
John Cashman: Right Tackle.
So everybody’s Twitter rant of was Mike McGlinchy.
Tim Cashman: Well, you got what you wanted.
John Cashman: Yeah, So Mike’s off to, to Denver signed.
Tim Cashman: off to Denver.
John Cashman: Kudos to Mike. 80 million, you know , you go live that money. you know, obviously Jimmy got hurt on Mike’s side. Trey got hurt on Mike’s side. Purdy got hurt on Mike’s side, and I know it wasn’t Mike’s fault, but it was on Mike’s side and just.
Tim Cashman: So, so you’re saying that any, anybody on that right side, or is it just inferring indirectly in a roundabout sort of way and coming back from here to there that it was somehow related to McGlintchy
John Cashman: Yes, pretty much
Tim Cashman: Okay, understood. Solid argument.
John Cashman: But yeah it happened on the right side. It never happened on Trent’s side.
Never
Tim Cashman: I didn’t have it on. The only, the problem is, is that, you know, Purdy and Donald, and the last time I looked, Lance, were all right-handed. So having them roll to the left constantly might be a bit of a, um, that might be, uh, a bit of taking a backwards step.
John Cashman: I think Trent can handle it
Tim Cashman: I am no rocket scientist, but no
John Cashman: But anyway, where I think McGlinchy got a bad rap was he was actually a very, very good run blocker. We ran a lot to his side. He was fast, he took a lot of guys out. Um, know, if you got Deebo around the edge and you got Kittle rolling and, and use, It was pretty good.
His pass protection was something to be desired.
Tim Cashman:, We didn’t get the full package.
John Cashman: But let’s talk, I mean, so we’ve moved on,
Brian Caynan: Well,
John Cashman: we’re now with Colton.
Brian Caynan: yeah. I mean, it says something if the niners didn’t really take anyone in the draft for the, the offensive line. Right. So they didn’t really, I guess they’ve thought, you know, The Aaron Banks’s and, and Colton can kind of keep things together. I think the only thing they did in the off season was sign Matt Pryor from, from Indianapolis, but they didn’t really make any moves. So, you know, John Lynch and team, they must be pretty high up on, on the current roster.
Tim Cashman: I don’t know if it was high up on the McKivitz as we have to make the best choice available. 49ers didn’t pick until the late third round. You’re not gonna get a, a tackle that late. At least I think a, a good tackle that way. You might have, a backup or one you can develop. which leads the free agency market and the 49ers did not have enough room, in my opinion, to really make that kinda of an acquisition I think, you know, when you, when you look at those two areas, It’s like, we’re gonna go with because these the best we have and we feel we can fill the roster in in other areas. So yeah, I think everybody’s gonna weak spot. But you, John said last year we all looking at banks as weak, amazing. Quite possible.
John Cashman: He’s been in the system for a while.
Tim Cashman: True.
John Cashman: You know, he filled in for Trent Williams on the other side and did a pretty decent job. So, you know, when, when Trent was down, for a little bit, so I have to believe at this point that they’ve got an idea that he’s gonna be decent. So, but yeah, so I think the, the guys up front are pretty well set.
Hopefully, again, no injuries,
Tim Cashman: Yeah only if you’re Micah Parsons from the Cowboys, you know who you’re lining up against. We know that. Yeah.
John Cashman: We do know that. Hey, Micah. Here’s Colton.
Tim Cashman: He did kind of school McGlinchy a few times in the additional playoffs. He was getting pressure, he was getting some good heat.
John Cashman: Sol et’s talk about like kind of a pseudo offensive lineman, Kyle Juszczyk How much longer I, how old is Kyle? He just seems to be ageless. Nobody knows.
Tim Cashman: He’s in his 10th year.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: 32 10th year. Yeah, probably around that.
John Cashman: I just wonder how much, I mean, he, Kyle Juszczyk
I mean talking about somebody to run behind, he’s done it for Deebo. He is done it for CMC.
Tim Cashman: Mm-hmm
John Cashman: He’s done it for Elijah, but that’s another guy. I’m like, how much do you have left in the tank? How much tread is left on those tires? Because he seems almost ageless in how he keeps going.,
Brian Caynan: Yeah
John Cashman: Been there since the beginning with Shanahan, this is sixth year with the Niners.
Tim Cashman: He’s 32 and, he’s now going into his 11th, 12th year, excuse me. I think you also have to look at what, you know, how often he is in the backfield? I mean, the Niners run a lot of single back sets.
I don’t think he’s the traditional fullback that we would’ve seen in the eighties and nineties with like, you know, Tom Rathman or Mike Allstot you know, people like that, which we don’t see much anymore, but I don’t think he’s taking the punishment that those guys did back, when you had the formation running in the I or anything like that.
It’s a different offense. So that has probably prolonged his career.
John Cashman: Yeah, no, that’s a good point. let’s get into another kind of pseudo offensive lineman. Uh, we’ll start talking tight ends. of course we have, you know, Mr. Niners, Kittle. And last year it seemed like Kittle had a bit of a resurgence from, from years prior. He certainly was on the same page as Brock Purdy had more touchdowns than he is ever had. just seemed to be really enjoying playing football and just running people over in the George Kittle way of doing things. You know, but then you see his nickname on Twitter is George Brittle. So you wonder health concerns. I am wondering how much they may load manage George, because he’s, obviously up there with Travis Kelsey’s one of the best tight ends there, but they brought in two new guys. One of which is obviously a project and another that’s pretty legit. So we get into the preseason. You’ve got Cameron from Alabama and Brayden Willis from Oklahoma. So what’s gonna be interesting is how they can block and how they can catch. So Tim, thoughts on just how the tight ends might, might work with, obviously Kittle’s gonna be the top guy
Tim Cashman: Sure.
John Cashman: then you move into to the other two.
Tim Cashman: Well, you talk about the resurgence and when you look at Kittle’s stats, that resurgence really happened once Brock Purdy came in to quarterback, they just seemed to have a chemistry. I think on the field at great opportune moments. The majority of his touchdowns came on the latter part of the season.
I also think that having someone like CMC out there that spreads the field and that will Kittle to get in the middle.
You know, it was, it was Deebo Samuels or it was George Kittle, and all you had to do was make sure those guys were shut down and you know that could help you win the ballgame. So, you know, obviously Kittle will be the number one tied end.
I reminded that. from the Redskins to sort of like spread out that field as well. And the experiment didn’t really work. I give kudos to the Niners for trying it. I think frankly, you know, with one tight end, you know, that’s really, that has worked for the 49ers in the past.
I dunno if you really need to, uh, to go further than that,
John Cashman: Brian, what are you thinking?
Brian Caynan: I mean, it’s gonna be Kittle and then the rest. So I think it’s gonna be, who is it? Rossie? I kind of like him more than Charlie Warner. I was just thinking about, what you were saying about Kittle and when Brock Purdy came in and kind of spreading things around.
I think you’re right. I think that definitely did happen. And then with CMC there, it kind of spread the field. I did hear that Kittle and CMC, they’re taking reps with both Darnold and with Trey Lance right now. So, you know, there’s a trust process I think that. That Kyle Shanahan’s doing with both those guys, with their backup, with those quarterbacks.
So he’s definitely integral. I just think who’s gonna be the second and the third tight ends and all that.
John Cashman: I’m really interested is this Cameron guy, because he’s such a new project that the upside could be, it could be Kittleesque. Because George came out, he was a six rounder and he was just fast, didn’t have all the stats from Iowa. Cameron obviously he played in Alabama. So that’s the one the, in the preseason I’m gonna be watching is see, okay, how does he catch the ball?
Does he move, you know, does he turn up field? Does he drop the ball a lot? Does he run people over like Kittle does? So that’ll be a real interesting one to watch. So we gotta move on to the last. but certainly not the least position group, which are wide receivers. And let’s start with kind of the quasi, the wide back Deebo, he’s got his contract.
We don’t have that drama this year. And I think last year the contract made it so Deebo just wasn’t in the same kind of shape that he came in two years ago. It was kind of playing catch up. So I think we might see an angry Deebo this year. Brian, what are you thinking about about Deebo?
Brian Caynan: I am thinking he’s gonna get close to a thousand yards. That’s what I’m kind of thinking. I don’t know if he’s gonna break it, but I know, you know, I use the, the, it’s a true wide receiver on the team, but I think Deebo, he’s gonna come out full force. I’ve read a lot of articles and I’ve heard some things saying that he was not in the best shape last year after the 20, the 21 season.
And then you’re right about the contract dispute. And so things didn’t get started as quickly as they wanted to. But yeah, I do see him going really hard, really strong this year and uh, you know, making a big difference.
Tim Cashman: I think Deebo is gonna make his plays. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. If he’s healthy, he’s on the field. Deebo is gonna make plays. Brandon Aiyuk, I think is gonna have a breakout here.
John Cashman: Yeah, I mean, when Deebo comes out and says you can’t cover ’em in a phone booth.
Tim Cashman: For the younger members of our audience, you may not know, you actually had to go into this physical location that was glass enclosure and you had to dial numbers. And after putting in a quarter or your calling card, that would be another podcast. We’ll talk about things we used to have to deal with. But, I think, uh, Aiyuik, uh, really came on strong last year. You know, he was a bit in Shanahan’s doghouse for a bit of time. So I’m expecting him to have a breakout year, the one I’m really hoping for, and we’ll see what happens. I really would love to see Danny Gray. Come out and start making plays.
Niners drafted him for his speed. I love guys who can spread the field and make the defense try to cover too many things. Gray’s got that ability. He didn’t play all that much last year. We saw some flashes in the preseason. So I’m going see him to potentially emerge. Between that and of course my favorite expression from last year, what we, let’s say is third and Juawan you knew where they were going.
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah. Yeah.
John Cashman: And how many people do you think Juawan is gonna just piss off this year? I think it’s gonna be three or four
Tim Cashman: I think the over under is five. No, I’ll make four. I’ll make it four..
Brian Caynan: No, you’re talking about Jennings. I read this really interesting stat about him. He only had like 59 catches last year, but 35 of his receptions. So more than half of his receptions came from third down. So, you know, that’s where they were going with. Yeah. So it’s pretty crazy.
John Cashman: So I am not high on Danny Gray. it’s one of those things, I saw him last year. He had a couple plays where you thought, okay, he is gonna spread the field, but I just, I just didn’t see it. And again, in the preseason we may see it more. I actually think he’s gonna be a casualty.I think this Ronnie Bell guy, I think he’s out of Michigan, is gonna be what replaces Danny Gray.
Tim Cashman: I am just glad we can agree to disagree.
John Cashman: But, you guys think Aiyuk is gonna be the man. And again, it’s contract year. He’s got a lot to show out there. He can put a lot on tape for either Niners or another team to pay for him. And we’ve seen it happened for Deebo. Why wouldn’t it work out for Brandon? He’s a gamer too, you know.
He’s out there thumping. He’s grown every year. He’s gotten better from his first year, to last year. It is just, it’s, it’s been, he’s been really fun to watch how much better he is gotten,
Brian Caynan: What year was it When he was in the doghouse Do you remember?
Tim Cashman: It was last year. I could be wrong though.
John Cashman: It’s the Dante Pettis doghouse. Poor Dante.
Of course Dante then burned us in Chicago.
Tim Cashman: And then what did he say? He’s like, I wasn’t even supposed to be in the play. It just completely broke down. And I just happened to be standing wide open in the monsoon. So there you go.
John Cashman: All right, guys, while we’re near the end of our time here,
Tim Cashman: I have one interesting stat to throw because when we first started talking about doing this podcast, we of course started talking about the NFC Championship and the fact that we ran out of quarterbacks. And so it got me thinking like, when was the last time that something like that happened?
So through the magic of the Internet, You guys have probably heard of the internet.
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm
Tim Cashman: I managed to find the last time the 49ers were in this situation. It was the year before Bill Walsh took over. We had Joe Thomas who was the general manager at the time. Fred O’Connor was the head coach. Obviously everybody remembers those guys for their glory years. But Steve De Berg and Scott Bull got hurt who were quarterbacks at the time got hurt in the first half, and they had to bring in Freddie Solomon at quarterback who had played quarterback at the University of Tampa
Just goes to show you how rare a situation like that is when you have to go back to 1978 almost 40 years or whatever it was to find that situation. Anyway, little tidbit. If anyone, our listeners wanna find it on YouTube, there is some footage of that.
It’s not pretty, by the way.
Brian Caynan: Oh, I was gonna ask you, did they win? Did the Niners win that game?
Tim Cashman: No, of course not. No. They went 2-14 that year.
You need to have a quarterback, you need to have a coach, you need to have talent. You know, those things tend to, when you don’t have any of those, they, you tend to be unsuccessful. Just that’s what I’ve read.
John Cashman: Well, speaking of being successful, it’s now a time to pay the bills with stuff be bought on Amazon this week.
I know it’s only been two days, but I’ve actually bought stuff on Amazon, so I bought green gobbler, liquid hair drain, and clog remover. if you haven’t guessed, we had a clog So when you have daughters and lots of shampoo stuff the drain gets stopped up.
I also bought a barbecue aid grill brush and scraper because we barbecued and I went to go scrape something off and my old scraper wasn’t there. So that’s what I’ve gotten in the last two days. Brian, anything you bought?
Brian Caynan: I have not bough anything in the last few days, but those two products I do need. So obviously I have a daughter in the house. I have my wife in the house, and I am looking for a better brush grill because I don’t want to get those ones with a little bristles where it’ll, you know, can kind of pop off and get into your food and stuff.
John Cashman: Yeah, that, that would be bad. Tim, what about you? Anything on Amazon the last two days?
Tim Cashman: Yes, there is. we have, this show is brought to you by Mr. non-scratch cellulose kitchen sponges. Got a 12 pack of those
John Cashman: Why is it better to cellulose? Like what?
Tim Cashman: I don’t know. I just knew that we needed sponges because the others were just looking way past their prime. Like when you don’t wanna touch the sponge, that’s when you know you have to replace the sponge. But not
Brian Caynan: You don’t change them every two to three weeks?
Tim Cashman: I think we had gone past that. I’m pretty sure we had gone past that.
And, we are also brought by method, foaming hand soap, c mineral flavor. So my hands will smell tasty?
John Cashman: Now the method people would probably pay us more.
All right final thoughts on the 2023 Offense, Tim?
Tim Cashman: I think they’re loaded. I think, you know, health obviously can trip any team up, right? Tackle question mark. Otherwise they’re looking loaded.
John Cashman: Brian?
Brian Caynan: Yeah, as I said before, they’ll make the playoffs regardless of who is their quarterback. So I’m feeling pretty good about them and I think they’ll do decent this year. So,
John Cashman: well, with July 4th coming up, it’s gonna be a firework show on the 49ers this year. I can’t wait because all the East Coast guys who do like GetUp and do First Take and stuff like that, none of ’em come to the West Coast teams. It’s like, oh, Aaron Rogers went to the Jets facility today. Oh, they did that.
Niner’s gonna throw some fireworks this year. It’s gonna be awesome. All right, right faithful. Next week, we’re talking D. Talk to y’all next week later.
Tim Cashman: Later
Brian Caynan: Bye.
Stuff We bought on Amazon this week:
Green Gobbler Hair Clog Remover
