John Cashman: What is up Niners Nation? It is Victory Tuesday, the fourth week in a row. How are we feeling?
Tim Cashman: I’m feeling like it’s four and oh,
Brian Caynan: I’m feeling the same way for no baby That’s huh.
Tim Cashman: it’s we’re four and, oh, it’s Cowboys week. We’re in October. It feels like football. I don’t think it gets much better than this
John Cashman: It’s like a Schlitz commercial. Um, for those of you turning
Tim Cashman: I think John, I have to correct you, John. I think it was old Milwaukee.
John Cashman: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: to correct you. do I know Random Beer commercial trivia? I just do
John Cashman: For those of you tuning in for the first time, my name’s John. I’m joined by my brother Tim, and my brother from another mother, Brian. We’re three obsessed Niners fans who get together weekly to talk Niners football. And today’s episode, we’re gonna be talking about the Niners’ victory over the Cardinals and a Cowboys preview for Sunday night football.
So, if you have a chance, leave a view, give us a like, subscribe. We do this just for the hell of it running for the money. So we’d love to hear from you. So Brian, man, you got to go to the game. Tell us about the vibe at Levi’s.
Brian Caynan: It was, it was pretty good. I, it wasn’t, this is my first game of the year, so it was pretty exciting to go. , the tailgating section was crazy as always, especially in the, in the, um, what is it? The main lot is right in front, which I think, I think it’s green. Lot one, barbecue pits, people throwing footballs.
, obviously, people drinking a lot of music, a lot of dancing. It was, it was fun. , The tailgate that I went to was a little on the quieter side. , it got pushed out to the blue lot, which was like on the dirt ones right behind it, but it was just, just as good to great food. , it was, yeah, it was a great experience, great vibe.
I, I think, I, people were just looking forward to getting this game over with and there were a lot of people, I think talking about targeting the Cowboys for next week, but, uh, you know, not a lot of Niner fans were, I think crazy about going to this game. I think just because it was the Cardinals of all things.
But, um, there definitely, ramping up the excitement for the Cowboys. I could just sense it and feel it, because every time during the game, whenever Dallas, whenever there was a, you know, a score in, in the Dallas, in the, um, in the Dallas game, they were showing that on the big screen. So, yeah, it was pretty good.
Yeah. Great experience. I.
John Cashman: That’s awesome. Well, there was a bit of sad news this week. , one of the more colorful, tight ends, kind of a precursor to George Kittle, Russ Francis, uh, passed away in a plane crash in upper state New York. And for those of you who know the history of Russ Francis, him dying in a plane crash is not, unsurprising because of what he used to do.
So, Tim, you’re kind of our resident, 40 Niners historian. Give us
Tim Cashman: Yeah. It, yeah. First of all, you know, condolences to Russ, you know, uh, Russ Francis, uh, and his family, like you said, very colorful, uh, character, but a very, integral part of the 49 ERs, um, second Super Bowl, Super Bowl 19. He was, brought out of retirement, was a coup, was convinced, uh, to come out of retirement by Bill Walsh.
He joined the Niners in 1982. , he was a terrific, you know, blocking, catching tight end, but very colorful personality. , you know, both on and off the field and a couple of stories. , Russ used to like to, you know, you mentioned, you know, he was a pilot, and when the four nine ERs would have their training camp in Rockland, Russ, much to the chagrin of the 49 ERs, uh, management used to like to buzz the 49 ERs practice fields in his Cessna or whatever, right.
You know, coming in at tree top level. , the other was, uh, I think it was the off-season and he told Bill Walsh that, you know, I’m gonna go out and try to set a land speed record in the, you know, Mo Mojave Desert. And Bill Walsh says, well, I don’t want you to do that because if you get into an accident, you might get injured.
And Russ Francis says, if I get into an accident, you won’t be able to find my watch. So there was, you know, there was, that was his personality and there was, you know, another game I remember, uh, I mean the guy really could play. , but there was a game in 1986 when Montana had just come back from back surgery.
I. and they’re playing the Redskins on a Monday night. And Dexter Manley had gone off in the press about how he was gonna treat Joe like any other quarterback, meaning I’m gonna go out there and I’m gonna knock his bell. And Walsh anticipated this. He knew that Manley was very, and it Manley was a very aggressive, very, very good defensive end for the Redskins, uh, at the time.
And, he just kept running Russ Francis in motion, and Russ, which I think was legal at the time, just delivering crackbacks on Manley every chance he got. And at one point, Dexter Manley just looked up, looked at Bill Walsh as if to say, you got me
John Cashman: Yeah,
Tim Cashman: so Russ Francis, you’ll be missed. , and rest in peace.
John Cashman: Yeah, really one of the, probably the first great 49 ERs tight end. ’cause right after him you had John Frank and you had Brent Jones, and now of course you have Kittle. Um, but yeah,
Tim Cashman: Davis is in there.
John Cashman: and Vernon Davis. , but he reminds me the most of Kittle, and hopefully, we’ll see something on Sunday night as a little tribute to Russ and maybe George will wear a t-shirt or, or something like that.
But yeah, rest in peace Joe Ruts. , sad to see you go. , but anyway, let’s, let’s move on. , so we had a game, The Niners defeated the Cardinals. , Brian, since you were there, what are your overall thoughts on the game?
Brian Caynan: so I think watching a game live is probably a little bit different than the experience of watching it at home. And I’ll be honest, I didn’t watch the replays. But in terms of me watching it from in the stands, um, the offense looked pretty fluid and pretty smooth. , I know Purdy had a really good day, throwing the ball, and I don’t think he missed any, any, um, any passes in the first half.
And C M C was running all over people, so from what I can tell in the stands, the offense looked great. The ball was moving, the ball was flying. , everything looked great from the defensive side in terms of watching the game. It just looked like there was always a pass, just a little bit too far, or maybe just a James Connor just turning the corner just a little bit too far, or Dobbs kind of running it out just a little bit too far, and, and getting past our defender.
So, that, that’s just what I could sense from watching it. But, um, I don’t know. Maybe I’ll hand it off to Tim. I don’t know what your thoughts are on the offense and then maybe coming back to the defense, what do you guys think about that?
Tim Cashman: Well, I, anytime you put up 35 points, I think that’s just, that tells you how good your offense is. And as you said, Purdy, you know, 20 of 21, obviously a magnificent day at quarterback. Um, you know, I look at this game as just maybe a three-part series. You know, the first, first part, the 49 ERs dictated the tempo.
You know, they take a 21 to three lead, and then the Cardinals decide to gamble a little bit. They go for it on a fourth and two, a direct snap. , when the four nine ERs were expecting punt, uh, they get, they then go down, they get a, they get a touchdown just before the half. And then in the third quarter, I thought that the Cardinals were taking it to the four nine ERs.
They were playing the game on their terms. , the four-nine ERs offense was able to match that, with scores of their own. But until Jevon har Hargrave’s sack in the fourth quarter, I think that was the turning point. You know, this was a Cardinal team that I don’t think any of us looked at and said This is gonna be a cakewalk given what they did against the Cowboys.
But we’ve also talked about complimentary football. There are gonna be days where, you know, the defense isn’t delivering what we. Anticipated, but the offense was just based on their just, you know, ability just to move the ball almost at will, they only punted once. Um, you know, that was the difference for the 49 ERs.
And, you know, they, they come away with a, a 35 16 win and, and they’re four and oh. So, you know, that’s, their days are not gonna always gonna be, there days are not gonna be perfect on, you know, either side of the ball, but you have players that can pick up the, you know, pick it up, when when it’s necessary.
John, what do you, any thoughts
John Cashman: Yeah. , I watched the game on a plane ride home, uh, and thankfully the internet is really good on American Airlines, it was just like, well, I just watched it on my phone. , really, I have to say the Cardinals are a good football team, and frankly, the NFC West is the best division in the NFC right now.
, there are no slouches, whereas, in the NFC East, the giants are not so hot. Uh, you know, Atlanta’s like eh. , and then, in the N F C North, the Bears are just a train wreck, so there’s not gonna be any easy victories. And you may see, I think three teams come out of the NFC West for playoffs. , the Niners’ offense was the story of this game.
They looked. Good. , Brock Purdy, you know, 20 for 21, just puts the ball in the right place every single time. And one of the things I noticed about him this time around is he always hits everybody in full stride. And that’s one of those things, like, they’re just, you get a deebo and IU and they’re in full stride, they’re gonna keep on going.
, so it was really impressive. , Christian McCaffrey had a career day. We probably could have had five touchdowns, but, uh, the offense is what carried the day. , defense looked a little bit off. Uh, and again, it’s, I thought Dobbs was particularly good.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: Uh, he stayed in there and took some pretty. Big hits. , and he also was turning the corner, uh, as well. , so I think the Cardinals, were, were a pretty good test, uh, for the Niners. , but yeah, I mean, I, I was really, I was pleased. I never felt that the Niners were really out of control in that game. Uh, so I think they, they handled the business and now we’re on to the Cowboys beat.
But let’s look as always at our keys to victory, because as procrastinators so far, we’re doing pretty well. , our first key to victory was containing a mobile quarterback. I’m gonna give the Niners kind of a C on this., I think they did a decent job. I mean, he didn’t gash them like he did the Cowboys, but he was able to move around, and, and get a few touchdowns.
As Brian alluded to, he turned the corner a few times. Uh, and I think he, uh, he showed where the Niners can be, can be stretched, uh, for, for some future, uh, offensive coordinators. Tim, any other anything on the keys too?
Tim Cashman: I. Well, yeah, I, I just go back to Doss. I mean, I’m just, you know, looking at the stats here, he had 12 rushes for 48 yards. Uh, his, his longest, you know, was 12. But, you know, he, he gets outta that pocket and, you know, he can make something happen. And, we talked previously about the Niners, uh, challenges, uh, containing a mobile quarterback.
But, I was more impressive than Dobbs in the pocket. Um, as you said, John, he was taking some, he was taking some hips, he was taking some pops, but he was delivering very good passes, to his receivers. Uh, and, and one of which was a, uh, a rookie from Stanford who had a, uh, a little bit of a, of a homecoming there.
I think it was. Wilson was his name, but he had seven catches, 76 yards and, and two touchdowns. So, I think the other thing that impressed me about the Cardinals was, you know, they were down 21-3 in this game. You know, they’re, you know, you’re on the road, your backs are against the wall. , and that team kept its composure.
They easily could have. You know, a turnover, I think kills that team. , but I, I think John, as I, you and I talked after the game, I think it’s, they, they believe in the system that the new coach, their new head coach is, uh, is trying to implement there.
John Cashman: Yeah., I know I completely agree with you. , but Brian, how good was it back to see Brandon IU catching the football?
Brian Caynan: Oh man. It was great to see him out there. He, he, I know he didn’t score any touchdowns, but, did he have almost 150 yards on, on what six or seven throws to him? So, he looked good. He, from what I could see in the stand, uh, stands watching the game. He always seemed to be in an open spot, like he would cover
He, let’s say would do like this really deep r and he would slam in, and then Purdy would just hit him on a dime. So he just looked good. He had a lot of movement. He always was able to get away from his defenders. And, and I think everyone was super impressed, kind of the way he, he came back after, missing the, missing the last game.
Tim Cashman: I think one of the plays that I, I think just this tells you how much confidence Kyle Shanahan has in iu. Uh, when the Cardinals had closed the lead to five, uh, they were down 2116 Niners get the ball back. Very first play Purdy hits IU for 34 yards. And that was just a that, that to me was just like, all right, it’s, it’s a ball game, but we’re, we’re not backing off and we’re gonna write back after you.
John Cashman: No, I agree. He looked great and it was good to have him back on the field. , but another one of our keys to victory, Tim was stopping the run. And I have to say, for the most part, the Niners accomplished this.
Tim Cashman: they did. I mean, the Cardinal’s running game never was, I think, a threat. I was more worried about Dobbs and, and you know, uh, you know, in the pocket and, and whether of the four Niners weren’t able to get to ’em and, you know, force a, a bad pass or was he gonna be able to, bring the Cardinals back into the game.
But, uh, my biggest thing was what happened at the end of the game or post-game rather.
John Cashman: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: Uh, I don’t know if you guys have any insight, but you know, there is, um, uh, there’s, um,
Brian Caynan: Yeah,
Tim Cashman: we gotta, well, I don’t know. Does anybody wanna explain the story of the little push and shove Mely? We had
John Cashman: Brian, did you, you had already left
Brian Caynan: I had already left. I had already left and I, and, so I, I didn’t see that part, but, um, I don’t know, maybe he was mad because, uh, Huff, wasn’t he one of the guys who took him down on that two-point conversion?
Tim Cashman: Who Fungo was out there?
Brian Caynan: Yeah. So I don’t know if it’s that, who knows?
John Cashman: the, what I had heard on the, the McAfee Show was that Huff had said to James Connor, I guess one of them, when he was on the pile or something like that, that he was a fairy. And I think James Connor took exception to that. So sought out Huff after the game to tell him he wasn’t So who, who knows? I mean, I, obviously was pretty mad at him for something, but, , and they had to be separated.
But, uh, you know, afterward, uh, nobody, nobody wanted to say anything in the mainstream press about that. So that seemed a little bit odd. So, um,
Tim Cashman: did like how Kittle was there breaking it up, So, you know, ki Kettle’s got a lot of skills,
John Cashman: there was some,
Tim Cashman: catching passes, you know, catching passes and breaking up fights,
John Cashman: I mean, he is a wrestler.
Tim Cashman: uh, yeah.
Brian Caynan: yeah, sure.
Tim Cashman: And he was at, he was at the WWE event I think the following night. So there you go. I think Huffington, I think, excuse me, who Fungo was with him?
John Cashman: He was,
Brian Caynan: W W E trucks were all over, all over San Jose on that Sunday, so you could see them everywhere. So it was funny.
John Cashman: Brian when, so one of our keys was converting in the red zone. Where were you for some of these touchdowns?
Brian Caynan: Uh,
John Cashman: There were five of them.
Brian Caynan: I was in a corner seat near, near the suites, on the second level, so section 200. , I did see, yeah, I saw some of, um, I think I saw the first two C M C touchdowns, so I think they came to my angle and I think, um, it just came my way. , yeah, they were really good seats right in the corner, so you got to see, um, A C M C kind of take, take them in.
So it was great. Great to see them there.
John Cashman: Yeah, I think, this was really on how much they converted in the red zone. Tim, do you have any, I think stats on, was it, was it a hundred percent? I mean, it
Tim Cashman: there were five of five. Yeah, absolutely. , there’s, there’s no, there’s no, no doubt about that. No. I mean, five, five touchdowns. I mean, you know, and of course, four by, by C M C. So, I mean, you guys know I love field goals, but I love touchdowns just a little bit more,
John Cashman: Yeah. I, we should explain that to our listeners. ,
Tim Cashman: know,
John Cashman: it started as a joke on the tech string and because for the longest time in, I think 2019, every first drive was a field goal. And we’re like, oh, Tim, those field goals, but we all hate them. So, unless they’re Robbie Gold sending the Packers home. , so yeah. And then this is the last key to the game. The Niners were serious about the Cardinals. They didn’t look past ’em. If the Cardinals had come in oh and three, it might’ve been a different story, but I think the Dallas game woke
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah.
John Cashman: yeah, so I, I was impressed. So yeah, out of the five Keys to Victory, I think they got four and a half, which translates into a blowout. So.
Brian Caynan: Absolutely.
John Cashman: All right, well let’s move on to one of my favorite parts, stars of the game. And it’s not Taylor Swift. So Tim, who is your first star of the game?
Tim Cashman: Just, I don’t know. I was gonna try to think of something, where I could throw in the term swifty, but, you know, nothing’s coming to mind. But maybe if our podcast hits enough listeners, we can have some. listeners. I don’t know. Nevermind. Maybe you won’t, you, you know, you can probably edit that out, but I know you won’t.
So anyway,
John Cashman: Nites. We’d
Tim Cashman: nation Heights. There you go. Nation Heights. I like it. I like it. Um, you know, I, I try to look for, one of the lesser known, uh, folks. I’m gonna go with Jevon Hargrave. , not only did he have, I think the biggest play of the game, he had the sack on Dobbs, uh, in the fourth quarter, uh, which, um, I, I think, you know, the Cardinals were forced to punt and then Iris just milked the clock down, to seal the victory.
Uh, but not only because of that, but he’s got three sacks this season so far, and that’s more than any four, nine ERs, all of last year, of any four nine er, anterior alignment. So, um, I think the dividends are paying off on that free-agent acquisition. So he is my star of the game.
John Cashman: Brian, who’s your star of the game?
Brian Caynan: Well, I guess it’s easy to pick Christian McCaffrey because he did have four touchdowns, so three rushing, 106 yards, um, on the ground, and then it looks like he had 70, 71 yards receiving and another. Touchdown receiving. So four touchdowns, a total. So yeah, he would be, I think every fantasy player, fan, he would be the star of the game.
So he cleaned up over there. , yeah. John, who do you think is your star of the game?
John Cashman: Uh, my start of the game is Brock Purdy, uh, 20 outta 21. Well over 200,
Tim Cashman: Yeah, 2 83.
John Cashman: 2 83. I mean, no interceptions, just efficient. , I didn’t see him take too many shots. , I think he was, he was my star of the game. Uh, question for you guys ever get to the, the, the next star? I think C M C is gonna be an M V P candidate.
Tim Cashman: We’ve had four games thus far, and he has been, an integral part of everyone. So I, I don’t, it’s a small sample size, but, you know, um, who else would you pick right now? I can’t think of anyone.
John Cashman: the only other one would be Josh Allen.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, I’d say, Josh Allen, you know, and granted, he’s off to a hell of a start as well, but I just, I don’t see any team as I don’t see any player right now as dominant. ,
Brian Caynan: Who, who was the last,
Tim Cashman: a difference.
Brian Caynan: who was the last M V P not to be a quarterback? Like, do you guys, what, what comes to mind
John Cashman: Adri Adrian Peterson from the Vikings
Brian Caynan: yeah, that’s right. That’s right.
John Cashman: and before that La Damian Tomlinson. So it’s almost always a quarterback. But yeah, I, I have to say, I think C M C right now is the M V P.
Brian Caynan: Yeah, I do too.
John Cashman: he just looks beyond. Awesome. , it’s Tim, does it give you, uh, flashbacks to Roger Craig?
Tim Cashman: Um, yeah, a little. I, I think you know that the, with Craig, I mean if you look at the 85 seasons, you know, the player when he got a thousand rushing and a thousand receiving. You know, I think at the time, you know, Jerry Rice was a rookie. They were still trying to, you know, fit him fully into the system.
, so he was, he was the focal point. And C M C is the focal point right now. I, I just think, I look across this niner offense and I see so many weapons that watching C M C, just time and time again, get the ball, produce results. It’s just, that if I’m a defensive coordinator, I. At some point, I have to commit to C M C and stopping this guy, which is gonna leave other people open.
And that’s what I think I’m waiting for. , because here’s a game with the 49 ERs. They put up 35 points and Deebo Samuel does not have one single catch
John Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah.
John Cashman: So, but anyway, getting back to the stars of the game. Brian, is anybody else that
Brian Caynan: moody. He had, he was, he was Jake Moody. Five for five extra points.
Tim Cashman: we love our
Brian Caynan: So let’s go with him. He
John Cashman: Well, I’ll go, I’ll, I’ll go with the whole special teams, uh, for a couple. One is during the one punt we had with Chenowski,
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: put it down on what the five, and then the guy who came up from the practice squad
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: gets it on the one and plays hot potato with it.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, that was a great,
John Cashman: like,
Tim Cashman: great
John Cashman: know what? You just, you had your opportunity and you took it and it was, and you did.
So start the game with that guy.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: Um, you know, for, for, for doing, for doing that. , but yeah, no, I mean, it, it was an offensive juggernaut, which brings us to places we can improve because as I like to say, every week, it’s not all sunshine lollipops. So, Brian, any places you think the Nirs can improve a little bit?
Because we know who’s coming to town on Sunday night.
Brian Caynan: Well, um, you know, I was high on Ambre Thomas, and I think a lot of us were in, in the preseason. And, you know, I could even see it like in the stands, like he was out there and he got picked on and I don’t know how many yards he gave up, but you could just kind of. See it from a fan’s perspective at the game.
Like, okay, they’re gonna throw to whatever side he’s covering. And I think they took him out for a little bit, right? If I understand. And they may have placed him with like, uh, uh, is it Isaiah Oliver? I’m, I’m, I dunno what that comes
John Cashman: Yeah. And then move Lenore back.
Brian Caynan: yeah, so, you know, the corners, the corner position is probably something that’s going to get picked on again this week.
If Ambre Thomas is out there, I don’t know if he’s not handing off receivers proper, you know, to the safeties or if he’s not sticking, you know, with someone long enough. But, you know, I think he’s gonna get picked on and that’s probably, you know, one place that I know. , Steven Books and the defensive coordinator, uh, the defensive team are gonna probably look at this week.
So, I dunno. Tim, what do you think? Over here on your side?
Tim Cashman: Yeah. Well, I would say, you know, with Ambry Thomas, uh, Brian, judging from the, your vantage point at Levi’s, um, those two plays, in the second quarter, I think one was a, uh, I think one it, he got nailed for a, an interference call or, um, or I don’t remember if that was, no, I don’t think that was Thomas, but, uh, two plays, yeah, he was burned.
That led to the Cardinals touchdown, uh, before, uh, halftime. , I, I would just say, you know, with the defense, there was a couple of plays that I thought really could, , have been the ball game. Uh, one was in the first half, um,
Fred Warner had a shot at interception just before the half. That could have been just the, you know, I think they could have put the Cardinals away before the half.
Ward had a shot at an interception in the fourth quarter, and unfortunately, he just lost the ball in the sun. , so yeah, I think those are the kind of plays, especially against the team, like the Cowboys that, you know, you don’t want have the what ifs, you know, those are the plays that you are gonna want, that you need to make, uh, to, uh, to beat a team like the Cowboys.
So, those would be my two areas. I think just, just the missed opportunities on defense.
John Cashman: Yeah, I’m gonna go with, you know, there’s a couple. One is, um, I did my Nick Bosa run today. I ran a mile last year. At this time I was running six miles. Like,
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah.
John Cashman: I mean, he’s still pressuring, he’s still awesome. He’s still great. But let’s step it up a little bit, Nick. Let’s get John running. I, the only thing that was of concern on the D was giving up an 87-yard drive and a 99-yard drive.
Now granted, the 99 yard
The drive came with a fake punt. , and that, you know, Ambry Thomas blew two coverages. But those are kind of the, like, those let teams back into games. , and if you’re gonna be facing an elite team, which we all think the Cowboys are, you just wanna get those guys off the field.
And that’s, that’s also why it was weird that. The Niners offense didn’t have as many plays as usual, because of those two drives. So, you know, again, we’re talking about an elite team right now. Their power ranking is their number one, but I, those are the two. That is the only place, I would look at to improve.
So, but yeah. Anything else from week four?
Tim Cashman: No,
John Cashman: No,
Tim Cashman: I know we’re gonna get to it, but you know, we had the Cowboys game circle the moment the schedule came out back in what, April May. So we need to, we need to get, we need to start talking about that. They win the, they win against the Cardinals. I think it’s time to move on.
John Cashman: Okay. You don’t wanna talk about other teams in week four?
Tim Cashman: Fine. Like they matter
John Cashman: Okay. Well, I mean, we may be facing some of them
Tim Cashman: fine. Like
John Cashman: ‘ cause
Tim Cashman: are other teams in the NFL
John Cashman: Nobody circles the wagons, like the Buffalo Bills, who decided to tell the Dolphins like, okay, I know you hung 70 on a really bad defense, now you gotta play us. Uh, and Josh Allen looked, looked good.
I, you know, from what I’ve seen, the two best teams right now are the Niners and the Bills. , the second tier are the Eagles Cowboys, uh, chiefs. But Bills look, bills look great. , Brian, anything else? I don’t know how much you got to see, of week four,
Brian Caynan: All I did
John Cashman: that, that looked interesting?
Brian Caynan: well, you know, I, yes I did. I did follow the Miami Buffalo game, but I didn’t, I didn’t watch it all, all that much, but, um, yeah, I, I guess I didn’t, uh, I know all the scores, but I didn’t watch him each individually to find out who did what and, um, what was big. But, yeah, I expected Miami though to, uh, to show up a little bit more, so kind of in that game.
John Cashman: I did too.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: All right. Tim, what about you? Anything else, that stuck out, because there were a lot of games on the 1:00 PM slot, , before the Niners came on.
Tim Cashman: Uh, I think I was just, I was a little surprised by how quickly and outta hand the Patriots-Cowboys game got. I mean, I looked up and all of a sudden it’s like, what? 23 at a half? I’m like, well, I thought Belichick. Would be able to do a little better. But, you know, when you’re, when you’re giving up, uh, defense, when, when the Cowboys defense is picking up two touchdowns, uh, that’s a bad day at the office for, for Mack Jones and, um, and, and the Patriots.
So that was the only one that kind of like, I raised my eyes. I think the only ones that I kind of just sort of, you know, went I’m, I’m glad I’m not a fan. And, for that team, is the Bears number one. I just think talk about an implosion of a season and then, uh, watching the New York Giants last night, I just thought, my goodness, what, what happened from a year ago when you made the playoffs?
So,
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm.
Tim Cashman: um, yeah, and of course, they were playing Seattle and you all know how I feel about the Seahawks, as does every passionate Niners fan. So, um, I think that was one, one of the key reasons I was glued in on that game. And so disappointed in the Giants, of course,
John Cashman: Yeah. And another one that’s kind of a sleeper. And then, and we’ll move on to how I was betting this week, is Baker Mayfield. It’s nice to see Baker kind of
Brian Caynan: yeah, yeah,
John Cashman: , and uh, I’m kind of wondering if we’re gonna see a progressive ad in his
Tim Cashman: Oh,
John Cashman: stadium,
Tim Cashman: you stole my line,
John Cashman: It is what it is. , but yeah, I, I’m, I’m glad to see him be successful, because, you know, I mean, he was forced outta Cleveland, didn’t have a really good time with the Panthers, had that great game last year with the Rams, where he just came in and winged it around and now he seems like he’s got a home with the buck.
So, Hopefully, he continues except when he plays the Niners in November. So moving on. So let’s look at, you know, John’s betting results. I had a pretty good week. , I was four and two, so overall I’m 13, 10, and one, so I’m very much in the positive. , Brian, I’m gonna give you props for this one. Brock Purdy.
I did bet the prop bet he was over 230.
Brian Caynan: Good job.
John Cashman: Yeah, so that was, thank you for that. Won that one. Pittsburgh was minus three over. , and a loss to the Texans and I’m not Pittsburgh’s offenses. Uh, they don’t, they don’t have an offense.
Brian Caynan: No.
John Cashman: , kudos to D’Amico Ryan. , you know, doing a good job with the Texas, and CJ Stroud looks like, uh, rookie of the year.
, I would say he and Paku Nacua, who’s are the two, two front runners. Miami Buffalo. I bet the overt 53 and a half, that was a track meet, Cleveland minus two and a half against the Ravens. Well, if Deshaun Watson, like he didn’t play, and that was like a last-minute scratch. I’m like, well, crap, I can’t get my money back there. , the Vikings gave me a little bit of a scare. It was minus three and a half over the Panthers, but I ended up winning Kirk Cousins thank you. And the Rams looked great for three quarters plus one and a half over the Colts. , The Colts came storming back. , you know, kudos to the new, their new quarterback.
, but yeah, Swed that one a little bit on the plane. , but they were, Matt staffer was able to, uh, do well. So, and then in my survivor pool, the chiefs did do it. They beat the Jets. Although this is one of those weird things about vetting, I was kind of rooting for the Jets you know. , so anyway, um, this week, uh, here, my, are my betts.
For any
Tim Cashman: John John, can I ask a question? Does this mean you’re not a Swifty?
John Cashman: no, it means I’m not
Tim Cashman: cheering for the Jets
John Cashman: Sure I’m not a Swifty. That’s fine. I don’t care. , so anyway, um, this week’s bets, I am going, the bills are minus five and a half against the Jags. , the bills are top tier. The Jags offense has not gotten into gear yet, and I think this spread a little light, especially because it’s in Buffalo.
, so I’m going there, Baltimore minus four and a half against the Steelers. The Steelers offense is in complete disarray. , I don’t know about Pickett if he’s even gonna be able to play. , so I think it, is gonna happen unless Baltimore implodes Texans plus one over the Falcons, CJ Strouds for real, and the Falcons are not looking great with, Desmond Ritter and their offense. Rams plus four over Philly. So this one I’m kind of waiting on because I wanna see how Matt Stafford is going to be.
Brian Caynan: Is he hurt
John Cashman: but I may be at the ramps. He had a hip injury from the Indianapolis Colts game.
Brian Caynan: Uh, okay.
John Cashman: so I gotta look at that one, but I like that one. ’cause Philly has to go all the way across the country. The Rams we’ve seen have been playing fairly decently. And Philly’s offense has been a little bit misfiring, but they’re still an elite team, so I’m a little hesitant on that one. Um, Arizona plus three, I’m gonna bet Arizona over Cincy again. Bingo’s offense has scored three points twice and Joe Burrow does not look right.
And he’s on my fantasy team and the Cardinals. I’ve seen him play Dallas and I’ve seen him play. I. The Niners end, they’re playing well. , they’re believing. And then the Packers Myas two and a half over the Raiders. , Raiders, I don’t know if Jimmy G’s back, they had a rookie, uh, Raiders offense has been sputtering.
, Jimmy’s throwing interceptions again ’cause I think he got back to a gunslinger mentality. , so I’m picking the Packers on that one. So, Brian, I didn’t see any Niners props. Uh, I probably will not bet anything prop-wise here because this game’s gonna be tight.
Brian Caynan: Yeah, I didn’t see any this week. I was trying to look for some to prepare for this podcast, but I didn’t see any as of right now. So in today’s Tuesday, the only thing I saw was Niners three, minus three and a half, and then the over-ender is 45. So that’s all I
John Cashman: they’re too close to, to even. Think like one’s gonna be better than the other. So, and then in my survivor pool, I’m going, bills over Jags. To see if I can make it to, week six, so.
Brian Caynan: You know, speaking back, back really quick, John, to the under, over under for the week 45, I’m kind of leaning, like if I was to bed, which I don’t usually do, but I would think this week would be kind of leaning towards the under. ,
John Cashman: Mm-hmm.
Brian Caynan: I dunno, what do you guys think about that? Because I think it’s gonna be a tight game.
, I don’t think there’s gonna be a lot of scoring and I think there’s gonna be a big grudge match from, you know, the playoffs from last year. So if I were to bet, I would think it would kind of lean toward the under, on that one. I dunno, any thoughts?
John Cashman: This is where I’m like, I can’t decide because both teams, can run the ball fairly effectively, but both teams can also gash you very quickly with big plays.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: and both teams have, you know, very, very good defenses. So to me, there’s not a, there’s just nothing that says it’s gonna be one way or the other.
, so, uh, when you, if you had to put my, I was thinking more over, but I just, I just don’t, I just don’t feel this one. so anyway, Brian, that brings us to the halfway point of our show, which is Niners trivia time. And I, I’m sensing it might be Dallas
Brian Caynan: Oh, let’s see. All right. Yes. We are playing Dallas, this week. So I got four good questions. I’ll read them out and then you guys will answer, and then we’ll do the answers. On the other side. Okay. In the 2015 Tale of Two Cities, N F L Networks, timeline Show, who are the narrators
Tim Cashman: by the way.
Brian Caynan: for the Cowboys and the 49 ERs?
Tim Cashman: Oh
John Cashman: I wanna say Sam Elliot was for the Cowboys
Tim Cashman: yeah.
John Cashman: For the Niners.
Tim Cashman: Uh,
John Cashman: Bruce Willis. Maybe
Tim Cashman: No, he was in the Avengers. , I can see his face, Jeremy. I can see his face, but I cannot remember his name. Jeremy
Brian Caynan: come back. Yeah, that’s right. We’ll come. Oh, we’ll come back. All right.
Tim Cashman: Oh,
Brian Caynan: You got that one? Well, you’re talking Avenger, so you already know
Tim Cashman: preview. Little preview. Little preview.
Brian Caynan: All right. All right, let’s move on, to the next one. Okay, so . in the catch game in the 19 81 82 N F C championship game. Then, this is a three-parter question, so obviously we uh, to go to the Super Bowl. Number one, what down was the catch on? What yard line did the play start from, and number three, who was the number one option on that play?
Tim Cashman: Brian, can’t you ask me something hard?
John Cashman: well, I’ll go first ’cause I’m not super about this. I’m gonna go third down on a three. Freddie Solomon was the first option.
Brian Caynan: All right.
John Cashman: Tim,
Tim Cashman: It was third and three from the sixth. Freddy Solomon was the primary receiver.
Brian Caynan: Final answer.
Tim Cashman: Yes.
Brian Caynan: Okay, moving on. Question uh, there are three players to win Super Bowls with both teams. Name those three, and for bonus points, see if you can name them all, all the Super Bowls.
John Cashman: Charles Haley, Dion Sanders
Tim Cashman: yeah.
John Cashman: and, Ken Norton, Jr.
Brian Caynan: Okay.
Tim Cashman: And I’m sorry, there were how many
Brian Caynan: I, I didn’t, I didn’t say how many. Yeah, I didn’t say how
John Cashman: Oh,
Tim Cashman: Oh, okay.
John Cashman: thought you said three
Brian Caynan: did I say?
John Cashman: my three.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: Yeah. Yeah. I, I would say, I would say the same. Same as well.
Brian Caynan: Okay. And then do you, can you name the Super Bowls
Tim Cashman: Oh, of of what? Of what? , of, of what each of them won. Uh, well, Sanders won 29 with the Niners and 30 with the Cowboys. Haley won, Super Bowls 23 and 24 with the 49 ERs. He won 27, 28, and 30 with the Cowboys. , and then Ken Norton won 27 28 with the, uh, Cowboys. And then he won 29 with the 49 ERs.
Brian Caynan: Okay. Final answer, last question. Um, when did Dallas become quote-unquote America’s team? Why and how? If you know the answer,
John Cashman: So it’s, it’s in the 1960s and it had something to do with their general managed text, something. But I’m gonna turn it over to Tim because I can tell you right now, he knows the answer.
Tim Cashman: it was a, it was the name of the. Cowboy highlight video that N f L films had produced. , and I wanna say the year was 1975. And the pro, the, uh, premise, or the intro to it was they’re on TV so often that people recognize them as much as movie stars or politicians. Uh, the Dallas Cowboys, they are America’s team.
Um, and so it, if memory serves, it came from the N F L film’s, uh, idea, not from the Cowboys itself. And, a little bit of in, of, of more history on that, Tom Landry hated the idea of the Cowboys being American scene because he thought it just put a big target on their backs. , so I’ll say 75, and that’s the story, and I’m sticking to it.
Brian Caynan: Okay. All right. Let’s move on.
John Cashman: so let’s move on to Cowboys Week. We’re officially here because we finished all this other stuff. We’re on Cowboys Week. So Tim brought up a pretty good fact to me over the phone. So the overall series between the Niners and Cowboys is 19, 19 and one.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: So this has been a pretty good series over the years.
Tim Cashman: They have
John Cashman: overall, let’s get some thoughts, from Tim just on overall what you’re thinking about the game, and then we’ll get to our keys of victory.
Tim Cashman: Well, I mean, this is why you watch football. This is the Cowboys Niners. This is Ali Frazier. , and this rivalry has gone back decades. And you know, John, when we, when you said, uh, it’s 19 victories of the Cowboys, 19 victories for the 49 ERs in one tie, they’ve also met in the postseason nine times. Uh, and so I just think, you know, you look at these two teams that the history of these two teams, the success of these two teams, and then the rivalry between these, I mean, the, you could not be pulling more opposites with Dallas, Texas and San Francisco, California.
So I’m fired up for this game, you know, like I said, we, we’ve circled it, from the beginning of the season. So, yeah. , cow, it’s Cowboys Week. What do you do? Well, you, you bring your A-game and I don’t think there’s anybody, there isn’t gonna be anybody who won’t be up for this game. Um, and, you know, winning the trenches, don’t turn the ball over.
I’ll say one thing that I’m looking for is that if you look at the Niners, last year, one of the key players of the game when they beat the Cowboys in the divisional playoffs, George Kittle had a monster game. You know, he of course had that juggling catch. But,
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: I read an article today and I agree with this, is that the Cowboys are going play cover one against the 49 ERs, which means you’re bringing a safety up into the box.
So you’re gonna try to stop the run and you’re gonna try to stop those quick, you know, passes to, you know, to Deebo and Aiyuk. You’re gonna, you know, if they catch it, then it’s gonna be for a minimal gain. But that opens up a player like Kittle who can break that kind of coverage, and extend those types of plays.
So, um, that’s gonna be my first key is to see, you know, what, what is George Kittle doing, and how are they trying to get him into the ball game? How is Shana Hanon gonna try to get him into the ball game?
John Cashman: Brian.
Brian Caynan: I’m gonna hark back to the defense. I think we have to, like, our safeties and our corners need to just stick with their receivers and, and just have good communication if they’re gonna drop off. , if a corner’s gonna have to drop off a receiver, back to safety and just not let, just, just not give up the big, big plays.
I think I’m just gonna go with that because I think that what I watched from the game last week is that our safeties, especially, our corners, I’m sorry, our corners just let a few things go. So I’m going to stick with that. Our defense kind of plays ’em all tight and, see what goes from there.
John
John Cashman: Uh, yeah, I went back, uh, during my run this afternoon and listened to the 2023, schedule review that we did. And it was funny ’cause we just skipped over the Cardinals. , and obviously, we went right to the cowboy. So, you know how times changed, uh, that the, you know, Cardinals were actually
Uh, you know, a decent football team. , but yeah, this is Cowboys week and I think we’re gonna see some, some things that we haven’t seen the Niners do yet. I would not be surprised to see the Niners on D have more five-man fronts, too, uh, that shows Dak something that he hasn’t seen before on film.
, I think they’re gonna go after ’cause they have to have Deebo and Aiyuk, presumably on the outside with Kittle in the slot and potentially C M C lining up as a receiver or a use check. They’re gonna pick on the corners and the linebackers. Uh, a bit. I think we’re gonna see stuff that the Niners have been saving for a rainy day, both on offense and defense that are going, that’s going to confuse the Cowboys.
, but the Cowboys are a very good football team. They have one of the best young linebackers in the game. , and then Dak is Dak. I mean, he is a very, very good quarterback who’s sometimes prone to mistakes. , but it’s gonna be a game. Uh, and I expect both teams to bring their A-game because, at the end of the day, it could be the difference between home-field advantage come January.
Tim Cashman: Yeah. I, I, I, and you’re right, John. I, I, I think, you know, this is the first now we’ve, we’ve been taking it one game at a time, and we’ve been stressing that in another podcast. But this is the first game I think any of us can look at and say, this is gonna have implications come January.
John Cashman: yeah.
Tim Cashman: Uh, because you’re now at this point, you’re, you’re thinking about the number one seed.
Yes. You’ve got, you know, many games to go. It is a marathon season, but we know what implications this has. , I don’t know if we’ve mentioned Micah Parsons yet, but I would, I, I, as you said in, uh, John, you know, this is Colton McKith, that’s, we’d circled him as a potential weak spot. So, alright. You’re, you’re Kyle Shanahan.
Do you block him with an additional tight end, like a, like a dwelling, uh, like you keep kettle or do you just run away from him?
John Cashman: Well, let’s, let’s get to our keys to Victory. ’cause that was one of ’em was always know where Micah Parsons is because he moves around a lot. , I expect him fully to go up against Colt MCTs, but this is a game where I think Purdy is gonna have to be like, okay, Parsons is Over here, or Parsons is now as a linebacker, now he’s on the end against Trent Williams.
, I would expect the Cowboys to run a bunch of stunts where they have Micah come straight up the middle into Brock Purdy’s face. But I think one of the keys to the game has to be like, where’s Micah Parsons? Because he is a game wrecker. He’s, he’s wrecked at least two or three games this year. Uh, and you just have to account for him. , Brian, any other keys for victory? Uh, for the Niners Over the Cowboys?
Brian Caynan: Well, I’d love to see, uh, you know, our defensive line. Get a little bit more sack. , you know, I think there was only like, what, one or two last week and, Obviously you’ve called it out, the Bosa run is only one mile. So you’d love to see more of that in him, to get more pressure. I mean, I know he’s getting, you know, he’s getting, Bosa is getting attention, but I just feel like he’s not hitting home, you know, like that we’re used to seeing.
So, uh, just love to see a lot of pressure on Dak. And you’re right. Just kind of rattle him a little bit. If it takes the five-man front to do that. Love to see that. See him on his back.
John Cashman: Tim, another key to victory.
Tim Cashman: Well, it’s gonna be turnovers. And I think one of them was, you know, getting, getting to Dak. , you know, he threw two critical interceptions, in the playoff game last year. Uh, diametric Leor had won that set up a field goal, and then right before the half, Fred Warner made one of the best plays, I think all of last season, that ended up taking points off the board, from the Cowboys just before the half.
So,
Brian Caynan: Oh, yeah.
Tim Cashman: um, yeah, I mean, going on what? Brian just said if, if you can get in there, you know, you push him around. , as you and I, uh, chatted, John, you want Dak to think he is the only way he, he’s gotta carry the team and he starts pressing things and maybe starts forcing throws. And that can allow the 49ers on defense to make huge plays and a big turnover.
John Cashman: Yeah, I’m gonna go also, with the Red Zone,
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: this is the only place that I see that the Niners have a very big advantage over the Cowboys so far this year. The Niners have been excellent this year in the Red Zone. , the Cowboys have not, uh, and that’s, you can look at what the Cowboys did against the Cardinals, and their defense has been doing a lot of scooping scores and pick sixes and things like that.
But if the Cowboys want to beat the 49 ERs on Sunday night, They’re gonna have to score in the red zone. if the Niners keep the field goals. I mean, I know this is all football basics, but,
Tim Cashman: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: the Cowboys have not been good in the red zone this year, and that’s where I think the Niners do have an advantage. , Tim, is anything else that, that comes to mind as a key victory?
Tim Cashman: Well, you talked about establishing the run and, I think just we, we saw how good the Cowboy Defense was last year. I mean, it was the first time it was, it, it is the toughest defense that Brock Purdy, I think, has faced. I’m not gonna count the Eagles, because he pretty much wasn’t out there and when he was, he couldn’t do much.
, but, you know, the Cowboys had, I mean, they, they did corral the 49ers offense, for quite a bit. I mean, McCaffrey had only 35 yards on 10 carries, and actually, Elijah Mitchell was the leading rusher in that game. , so yeah, if, if the Cowboys are going to bring an eight-man into the box, but the Niners can establish a run, I think the, the four Niners will be successful.
John Cashman: Yeah, I think if the Niners established run, it’s gonna be a key to victory. Brian, you brought up an interesting point.
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: Trey Lance is no longer with the Niners.
Brian Caynan: I was just kind of
John Cashman: is a cowboy.
Brian Caynan: I was thinking to myself today like, wait a minute, this is, is this why Dallas signed him? Because they were preparing for this game. So it was just something that was in my mind. I was like, wait a minute, this, this is, it’s gotta be a coincidence. Or, or maybe it’s not. Maybe, you know, I think maybe Dallas wants to just get over the hump and I know Dave, the Niners have beaten them two years in a row in the playoffs and maybe they feel like this is their opportunity to do so.
Who knows? But I just kind of thought about that today and, I don’t know. But of course, he’s probably gonna give them some intel. Um, on the way Shining Head will operate. , as long as the Niners execute, on offense and in defense, it shouldn’t matter. So
Tim Cashman: I gotta, I, I, I gotta disagree with you on, on that one, Brian.
Brian Caynan: Tell me, tell me, tell me.
Go
Tim Cashman: yes, they, well, well, they, okay, well they signed Trey Lance, but I, I mean, Intel is like, alright, you know what, Chris McCaffrey’s really good. I think it should stop. I don’t, I don’t know if that’s the intel that, that he’s bringing.
And, I, I, I just don’t know if the league works like that, that there’s just, you know, the secret code or whatever, the 4 9 7, and let’s also not forget the four Niners signed Anthony Brown, uh, a corner from the, from the Cowboys who play with them for, for six years. So I think if anybody has the Intel advantage, it’s the Niners because they got a guy who’s been with the Cowboys for six years, but at the end of the day, you know, you’re gonna line up, you’re gonna snap the football and it’s gonna be, you know, you know you’re bringing your A game, you’re gonna bring, I’m gonna bring my A game and. Well, let’s see what happens.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: yeah, it’s, it, it’s gonna be a game. The only other thing, it’s not a key to victory, but it’ll feel really good if it happens, is just to shut Chris Collingsworth up because we know Chris Collingsworth hates the 40 Niners. After all, he lost twice to him in the Super Bowl, and he is gonna be cheering for Dow.
He’s gonna be Oh, oh D’s this DAXs that. Mike is this, Mike is that, and I just want, like, when he was calling the game against the Packers and he was talking about Aaron Rogers, he’s gonna bring it back and watch what happens. And all of a sudden Jimmy hits George in the middle of the field wide open and it’s balls game, it’s ball game.
, so I just want Chris Cosworth to shut up. I just, it’s like I felt so bad for the Swifties who had to listen to his dribble on Sunday night,
Tim Cashman: I just two, two things. I, I think number one, there’s, there’s, I don’t think Chris, Chris Collinsworth could probably cure cancer and John still would be, you know, irritated at him. Second. I love how Taylor Swift keeps coming into, our podcast. It just, she just keeps coming in,
John Cashman: Well, on a, on a somewhat of a serious note, I’ll give, I mean, it’s awesome that so many other people are being turned onto football because I think it’s a great sport. , and is Tim and, and Brian and I have alluded over the years, it’s a real family kind of thing because you watch it and you know it’s got food and, you know, making homemades and crabby snacks and we’re, we’re doing that kind of things.
So, you know, for a teenage daughter who might have zero interest in football to join her dad and watch a little football
Brian Caynan: Yeah,
John Cashman: She’s a Swifty. I think that’s kind of cool.
Tim Cashman: that is cool.
John Cashman: and if we could just shut up Chris Collingsworth, that would be awesome too. So, Brian, we’ll move on to our usual towards this, how’d the Niner nights do
Brian Caynan: Oh, I
John Cashman: in fantasy football?
Brian Caynan: lost again. My team isn’t that good this year, but I do have Brock Purdy and Brandon Aiyuk, but the rest of the team is pretty crappy. , we talked about Purdy having an excellent game, with only one passing touchdown and he had one rushing touchdown. So two touchdowns in total. Not a big, not a huge day.
, 21 points in fantasy. And then I think Aiyuk has 148 receiving yards, which is about 14 points. , so Good, good there. , but it looks like your team won, I think, uh, for once.
John Cashman: Uh, it helps when I put in the guy from Miami who just, just seems, just scores, lots of points, so that helps. Zach Wilson also had a really good game. , Joe Burrow has been my bust so far.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: so, I don’t know what’s going on with him, but Yeah. No, it was good. It was a good win. , see if we can’t keep it going for another week, but, yeah, so, so Brian, tell us how we did, I, I gotta admit Brian, you were, you were up against it this week because,
Brian Caynan: I.
John Cashman: well, I might know.
I was about to say, Tim could probably tell you the score of all 20 of the Niners victories and that tie. , so I, he just really had no chance.
Brian Caynan: I, I, I, I was gonna throw some softballs in here at the same time, but yeah, I, I knew this was gonna be, just bring up some nostalgia and it was, it’s good that you know, this is the third meeting, well, I guess two in the playoffs the last two years. But, you know, after a 30-year dormancy in the playoffs, it’s, it’s good to see it all back and, and see this rivalry back in full swing.
, okay, so number one in the Tale of Two Cities, 2015 N F L Networks, timeline, who are the narrators? , one for the Cowboys and one for the 49 ERs. Um, who’d you guys say? Let’s set it.
John Cashman: Sam Elliott and the guy from the Avengers.
Tim Cashman: It is Jeremy Renner.
Brian Caynan: Jeremy Rener. You got that right? , by the way, when I was looking this up, Sam Elliot was born in Sacramento.
Tim Cashman: Well, John, as our dad said, Sacramento’s full of cowboys, so, and we’ll have to explain to our listeners maybe on the next podcast, but that’ll be an inside joke between John and I, and we’ll explain it to Brian as well.
Brian Caynan: All right.
Tim Cashman: It’s too funny.
Brian Caynan: number two in the catch game. 81, 82. The three-partner question, what down was the play? What yard line was it on, and who was the number one option? Tim
Tim Cashman: Third and three from the sixth
Brian Caynan: Number.
Tim Cashman: The primary was, was Freddy Salman.
Brian Caynan: so you might be right at the six, but I was looking this up on Wiki. It did say it was the five. So, um,
Tim Cashman: They’re wrong
John Cashman: Did they round
Tim Cashman: you know why, you know why they’re wrong? Because Vin Scully said it. And I watched that game today on YouTube, when I was, supposed to be doing work
Brian Caynan: Well, all right, let’s move on. Okay. , who are the players to win Super Bowls with both teams? Tim, you nailed this one. So, you got all the numbers right. So, Charles Haley, Ken or Jr. And Dion Sanders. And you, I you were gonna get this right. So congrats.
Tim Cashman: Thank you.
Brian Caynan: number four, when did Dallas become America’s team?
Tim, you had it all right. That it was what again? , what caused it?
Tim Cashman: F L films.
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm. , you, you have the historical background Exactly right. Because what they were looking at all this, the stars or the movie comparing it
Tim Cashman: They were always on Monday night football and national games and yeah, the intro was like, they are recognized so often that they are basically celebrities, hence they’re America’s team.
Brian Caynan: So the only thing is Wiki says 78. You said 75. But I’m opting to believe you because you are the,
expert. So, you know, maybe we should call you the 49 ERs Wiki from now on. I don’t know. But yeah, they said 78 on Wiki, but that was the only thing.
Tim Cashman: Well, I, I, I would maybe on that one I’ll go with Wiki.
Brian Caynan: So I’ll give you a 3.75 on this one.
Tim Cashman: Ah,
Brian Caynan: Dang it,
John Cashman: I, I would give you a, I give you an a plus. , so for Tim and I, this is a late-night game. I mean, this game comes on at eight 20, it’ll be over by 11.
Brian Caynan: yeah.
Tim Cashman: I,
John Cashman: I’ll be able to wind down by one
Tim Cashman: yeah.
John Cashman: so Brian, what are you gonna be doing for this game? Where are you watching it?
Brian Caynan: I am not going to this game. It’s too far to go on a Sunday night. , so I’m gonna watch it at home. I’m gonna make some chicken wings and have a couple of beers watching it, so
John Cashman: Nice,
Brian Caynan: Yeah. You guys, are you gonna be in the man cave? Tim?
Tim Cashman: W i I will be in the man cave. , my wife is gonna be out of town on a business trip, so my daughter will be upstairs, but you know, she has, she can text me or, you know, call me on my phone from two floors up if she needs anything. , I think I’ll be doing a lot of pacing, but I, I think, you know, I, I look at this game, like that wonderful song from the 1990s by Ugly Kid, Joe.
I hate everything about You. And that’s how I feel about the Cowboys, right, the, right now, this week,
John Cashman: Um,
Brian Caynan: John, what about
John Cashman: I’m gonna probably watch, I’m gonna watch it, I think probably upstairs in, the family room. Uh, I think we’ll do something like chili. May I, chicken wings sound delicious, so I might lobby for that. , but yeah, and I’m a little bit like my brother, in that I, have my certain spot on the couch and the game only gets tense if I get up and start watching it from a standing position, like really close to the television.
, so hopefully that won’t happen. Usually, it doesn’t happen until like the third quarter. Uh, when we played the Saints in 2019, it started in the first quarter. , but yeah, I mean, I think, uh, before we head off, Tim, any, any final thoughts on this game?
Tim Cashman: I, I think it, it like this is, this is, um, this is a heavyweight fight, but just one more thing I’d like to, to throw out. I want to give a big shout-out to my good friend Brian, who ran a half marathon and set a personal record. , so congratulations
Brian Caynan: thanks, man.
Tim Cashman: who
John Cashman: Great job, Ryan.
Tim Cashman: but then, went to the Niners game after running 13 miles and staying there.
So you got stamina, my friend.
Brian Caynan: there, there’s nothing like taking a Navy shower in the parking lot of the SS a P center just pouring water over your head. so, you try not to smell Going to, to, um,
Tim Cashman: Right.
Brian Caynan: you know, I had no time to go anywhere, so I just, you know, I did what I had to do and then I had to, as, as I was, I texted you guys this, but. Because I was running late and I couldn’t find parking. Misty, my friend recommended just parking at a b t A station and jumping on the train. I will recommend that hands down.
If you’re ever running late to a game, do that because it’ll get you into the stadium probably much faster. ’cause I saw those parking lines because, they were backed up for like, you know, probably a quarter mile. So it worked out, worked out just fine. It was fun. It was a great game and, a great day. It was a lot of fun.
And thanks for the cheers, Tim and John on that day. So good
John Cashman: That was awesome, man.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: Um, if, if we lose against the Cowboys, you’re gonna have to run 13 and a half miles to get this on track. ,
Brian Caynan: I might, I might
John Cashman: yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m excited for this game. Probably the most excited I’ve been for a Niners game this year. you know, it’s gonna be a buildup all week. It’s gonna be fun.
It’s gonna be Sunday night football. The anticipation on Sunday will be going up and up and up and up, until game time. And then we’ll see how it goes. I mean, it’s football is any given Sunday, so I’m super excited. I think it’s gonna be a game. I think I’m gonna play golf before it, just to see how I do.
And, you know, and I play golf before games. We do pretty well. So, uh, I’ll keep up that trend. Plus I like to play golf, so, um, but yeah, other than that, thanks for tuning in. I’m John joined by my brother Tim. My brother from another mother. Brian, just say, peace out in Ironers Nation. Let’s keep the victory Tuesdays going, and we’ll see you next week later.
