John Cashman: What is up Niners Nation? It is mega victory Tuesday because we beat the Cowboys.
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah.
Tim Cashman: They didn’t just beat him. That was a beat down.
John Cashman: It was a clinic a beat down smashing of hands? Well, I don’t know. Whatever you want to put it. So, Tim, how we feeling? How we feeling on this Tuesday?
Tim Cashman: Well, if you had told me before Sunday’s game that in the fourth quarter I would be resting comfortably on the couch at the beginning of the fourth quarter, and then I was up 32 and we’re watching, Sam Darnold taking Snaps, yeah, I didn’t see that one coming. Didn’t see that one coming, but it was, I, I can’t think of a better game than IRS have played.
And John, you and I talked about this. I can’t think of a better game. The 49ers have played since maybe the NFC Championship against Green Bay a few years ago. They just, from start to finish, it was the Niners, they dictated the game on their terms. Uh, anytime Dallas had a hint of momentum, the Niners has snatch it, you know, right back.
So I think, yeah, hands down they’re the best team in football right now. And I know we’re only five weeks in, but I can’t think of a team that’s playing any better than they are.
John Cashman: Neither can I, Brian, how you feeling man? It’s Tuesday. Victory Tuesday.
Brian Caynan: Feels good. We won that game. I was at work yesterday and I was thinking, man, I can’t believe we just won that game. You know, I had a, I had to be at work early. I had, you know, and , had some cold adult beverage beverages the night before. So, you know, having a headache at work, thinking like, oh man, we just won that game.
It felt pretty good.
Tim Cashman: It was the best headache ever. I bet.
Brian Caynan: It was probably, well, one, probably not as equivalent, but probably maybe three quarters of the way. Just as good as it felt when, on that Seattle, the game, uh, in 2019.
Tim Cashman: Oh, at 2019? Yeah. Well, you know, maybe a few of us had some tasty beverages at the end of that game as well. Maybe just maybe. No, John is my witness.
John Cashman: Yes, we all had tasty beverages that night. For those of you who are tuning in for the first time or if you’re returning, I’m John, joined by my brother Tim, and my brother from another mother Brian. We’re three obsessed Niner fans who get together every Tuesday, talk about the last game by the Niners and to preview the game before.
So this week we’re reviewing the Cowboys game. That was on Sunday night Football, and we’re looking forward to the Niners traveling to Cleland. And playing the browns. So Tim, let’s talk about that epic win on Sunday night Football with the Niners. Gimme some thoughts on the game.
Tim Cashman: I think first thoughts, I mean, and I say this knowing that Brock Purdy the previous week against the Cardinals, he went 20 of 21, but I’m gonna call this his best game ever. And, and here’s the reason why he did it on national television. He did it against one of the top defenses in the league, and he threw four touchdown passes.
And his accuracy on multiple throws to iu, to Deebo, particularly in the third quarter. , I think those are some of his best throws. And he just, he’s legit. There, there is no more argument about, well, you know, party is, he’s got a great surrounding cast, or he has a great coach, or, you know, he’s, he’s more of a game manager, but this guy can legit play.
Uh, and when you’re doing it against a defense like the Cowboys who we saw, you know, for the first few weeks, uh, just steamroll opponents and you can make arguments about the quality of their opponents that they played. But, you know, people like Mike A. Parsons, they, they’re, you know, they’re still up for defensive player of the year, in my opinion.
But Purdy, I think he was sacked maybe once, uh, but he never looked, um, he never looked, uh, panicked. He never looked like, uh, anything was getting to him. Any of the pressure was getting to him. He just flat out. Can ball. So it’s just, and you know, and we’re sitting here, at the end of a 42 10 thrashing.
I think Dallas pretty much is like, we’re gonna put eight men in the box. We’re gonna play cover one, we’re gonna stop McCaffrey. They were keying on him all night. And we’re gonna put the ball, we’re gonna put the game on Brock pretty shoulders and Brock. Pretty answered. And here’s the result. 42 to ten four touchdowns.
John Cashman: Yeah, Brian.
Brian Caynan: , initial thoughts after the game? It was, it was an epic beat down. As, as I said before, uh, Brock Purdy played his lights out, 17 to 24. I think he had a what, let’s see, or 144, uh, QB rating. He was definitely clicking and I love seeing George Kittle, and his famous t-shirt, come out his three touchdowns and the Gary Plummer ish t-shirt from the nineties making a resurgence. But he just looked good and I was, I was happy. Uh, Brock party looked good, but I was happy for George Kittle because he was pretty silent. These last, you know, the first what, four games of the season? Um, I think he only had like one or two catches, so not really much going on with him, but this game was his coming out Party three for three.
He scored every time. It was just, it was great. And, , I love George Kittle. He’s on
my fantasy team, and it was just great to see him, like, get some, uh, get some touches and go in for the score. So, yeah. What about you, John?
John Cashman: Yeah, well, I mean, let’s, let’s, we’ve given the offense a lot of love, which you have to do with 42 to 10, but it really was a story of all three phases. Clicking the offense was great. The defense was great. The special teams was great. It was just an absolute clinic that the Niners put on the Cowboys. It was also the least stressful game I think I’ve had in a really long time.
Brian Caynan: Absolutely true.
John Cashman: Uh, uh, but I still couldn’t fall asleep until one 30 and I had to take some melatonin to actually go and do it because it was like, oh, that was, that were good. Like, what are we gonna talk about on the podcast? But yeah, it was, it was really, it was a really special game. , this is one that was just, it was so great to see.
I can’t wait till 49 hours comes out. Um, which usually I think comes out on Wednesdays, other podcasts, like, here’s the catch, just talking about this. But it was, it was a really special game. But let’s get into some other stuff. Some, some particulars of the game that I think really stuck out to me. And I think, one, we’ve talked about Purdy, but let’s talk about, there was a very good sequence when Purdy to me showed that he is an elite quarterback. And Tim, do you wanna walk us through that? Because I know we, we talked about it before and I’m sure Brian’s on the same page with us.
Tim Cashman: , we were talking about the sequence, uh, in the third quarter, uh, the Cowboys had taken the, uh, kickoff, uh, and they got in the field goal, so it’s 2110 and Niners, they’re driving it’s third and four, and Purdy is pressured and he hits Iuq for what looks to be, I think it was like a 25, 30 yard gain and on, and we all think, okay, we’re rolling.
We’re
John Cashman: And a very well placed touch ball on the
Tim Cashman: Absolutely. Absolutely. And then there’s a holding call, and I’ll have to look up
Brian Caynan: Spencer. Buford.
John Cashman: Burford.
Tim Cashman: it was Burford. Okay. I thought it was, I thought it was Spencer, but so now it’s third and 14. And here’s where I think you see the difference in what Shanahan will do with Brock Purdy that I don’t think he would do with Jimmy Garoppolo.
You know, trail Lance, we don’t know. But I think in, if it’s Garoppolo, I think he runs a screen in that situation. He, gives it to Deebo, he gives it to C M C and, and, you know, it’s basically like,
Brian Caynan: You guys do it.
Tim Cashman: downfield and let’s see if something can happen.
So that, in that note, , he doesn’t, he, it’s third 14, he’s gonna spread the field. , iu in this case, IU kind of runs a, uh, I think he ran a downfield sl, but I. , Devo runs more of a dagger route. I mean, he, he comes, he’s, he’s line, he’s lined up in the slot. He came in and, you know, came right into the middle of the field, but that ball had to be placed perfectly.
And that’s, uh, I think that just shows the confidence and the aggressiveness, I think now that Shanahan can show with this offense. But after that, Dallas imploded, you know, Kittle gets, uh, I think it was Kittle who scored his third touchdown on that drive. So you’re down 18, but then Dak throws three interceptions on the next three Cowboys drives after those two plays.
, the game was pretty much over, uh, looking back when I watched the game today. But, uh, it always, I, I harken back to something that, uh, Niners Nation, who we all follow on, uh, x, , is a, a few years ago, uh, when Garoppolo hit two third and sixteens it’s third and no problem. And that’s what came in, uh, in this situation with, with Brock Purdy.
And, and that’s just the level the Niners are playing at right now.
John Cashman: Yeah. Brian, , any plays that, that you kind of look at, which were pretty defining.
Brian Caynan: well, you know, you talked about the defense, John, but I just
remember this play that Fred Warner did. Um, Dallas was backed up
in their, , within, probably within their 10 yard line, and they, uh,
Dak was going out to throw, Fred Warner was chasing,
I. , Dak and Dak was about to throw like a d a dink pass, like some sort of screen, like just a short pass.
But
Warner jumped up and Dak didn’t throw the pass because he was gonna get either was gonna get, you know, slapped by, , Fred and then Fred got him for the sack. And so,
, probably what we probably dropped him at like the five yard line or something like that. But that was a
pretty defining play in that.
, Fred Warner’s all around game, but that played to me, just kind of stood out as being, you know, stopping the Cowboys in their tracks. They had a little bit going on. I think right before that was, was that the play where they got the C M C , fumble? Um, yeah.
Yeah.
So
that was it. And it stopped the momentum right there. And, uh, Fred was able to get them for this hack. So yeah, that, that was a pretty defining play. I think it was in the second quarter ish. , if I remember
correctly, yeah.
Tim Cashman: Second quarter.
Brian Caynan: what about you, John? Do you have any defining
plays in your mind?
John Cashman: yeah, yeah. For me it was the tricky Niners play,
Brian Caynan: Yeah,
John Cashman: um, because
Brian Caynan: stole.
John Cashman: I was like, oh, they’re.
Brian Caynan: I’ve just said that. I just said that. I just said that.
John Cashman: Yeah, they ran it. So I think everybody knows, but this way Detroit ran it earlier in the day to much effect. And sometimes coaches will shy away with it. Like, oh, somebody’s already seen it. It’s not gonna, like, I would know how anybody would remember it ’cause or even know if you were even watching Red Zone.
But, , but yeah, I mean what was impressive about that play Dallas. They used the Dallas aggression against him. ’cause you could see the Dallas, , Eight men start to come up through that line of scrimmage, right? When they hand it to C m C, then they go off to C M C and then all of a sudden they give to Deebo and they follow Deebo.
And then all of a sudden it’s back to Purdy, who wasn’t exactly like a Terry, like all sitting there by himself, Terry Bradshaw style. I mean, there was like dudes around him. and then all of a sudden he uncorked and I’m like, oh my, someone’s gonna be so wide open. And there was George Kittle so wide open.
, so that to me was just like, okay. It reminded me a lot of on the Thursday night play, , back in Seattle when gie pretty fucked left, then he faked, right? And then he hit Kittle down the middle. , those kind of things reminded me of, of just like, okay, wow. Um, that’s a really special play call. And apparently they’d had it on the books for like two years and they never called it so,
Tim Cashman: I, I was reading today in the Athletic that they actually had wanted to call that play in the N F C championship game against the Eagles, but given they didn’t have a quarterback who could throw the ball, , kind of hard to run that play in that situation. But I, I want to go back to, to Fred Warner because you know, Brian’s description.
I mean, uh, Fred Warner on that play, he disrupted two potential passes from Dak in that situation. And then, as Brian said, he gets the sack. But John or, or Brian, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Fred Warn. We talked about it a great game Brock
Brian Caynan: yeah.
Tim Cashman: had, and, and he did, but I don’t know if I’ve seen Fred Warner have a better game than he did against cowboys.
John Cashman: I, I, I don’t know why he is not up con for consideration of, , N F L, uh, defensive Player of the year.
Tim Cashman: Uh, he keeps playing like this. Well, he’ll obviously have my vote
John Cashman: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: if I could vote
John Cashman: us in US in the press quotation
Brian Caynan: Maybe one day, one day we’ll get a press
John Cashman: Yeah. , So Brian, you had asked an interesting question, and do you think C M C is getting
Brian Caynan: I’m only saying that because I just felt, was it maybe within the first drive, the first series there was like a, a big face mask and although it helped the Niners get that first down, because I don’t, I, I think they needed to get, if I remember correctly, they, they,
they got the first down at it, which they probably weren’t gonna get.
But I, I don’t know. I I, don’t know if it’s the style of running that he does, but it just seems like just people are always seem to be grabbing him and it not just like the normal grabbing, but maybe like helmet to helmet or, or maybe like a face mask here or there. , I just
wanna get, get your thoughts on it because like, as a casual fan like myself, like, I mean, obviously you’re protective of your, of your team, so like, you don’t wanna see your quarterback get hit, you don’t wanna see your running backs get, get targeted, or your receivers get targeted.
But I, I just kind of felt like, oh, is is that happening? And I wanted, you know, just to see what would you guys thought? Do you guys think that, or do you guys see that as being problematic or is it just kind of the way that the game is? So, I dunno. Maybe Tim, I’ll ask you. Yeah.
John Cashman: Tim.
Tim Cashman: , I don’t think Dallas was targeting McCaffrey in that way. Uh, because a, a couple reasons. Number one, the two plays you mentioned, one, one was a face mask, and that was the first play of the game. I. Uh, the second penalty was a helmet to helmet. And, and both those penalties, you know, gave the Niners an additional 15 yards.
So I, I don’t see where the benefit is to, to Dallas to, you know, play that way and hope that somehow their defense is going to, , somehow reap the benefit of it. Because I, ’cause I don’t see the, I, I don’t see the return on investment. I, I will say that, you know, as I said earlier, I, I think the Dallas game plan as, as we saw in the playoff last year and what we saw today, is that when you play that cover one and you’re putting eight men in the box, they were going to, you know, they, they did not want McCaffrey to beat them.
And they did. They did what I thought, you know, I think probably looking at all of McCaffrey’s games thus far, Dallas probably had him bottled up the best outta the five games, uh, so far. But at the same time, you know, that opens up other, you know, weapons. And we saw Ike, but we saw George Kittle as well. I mean, three touchdown passes, uh, that he caught.
And that same thing happened last year in the divisional playoff. It was, we’re gonna stop McCaffrey, but George Kittle ended up having a Monster game and had some huge plays in that game as well. So, , no, I think if it was, you know, we were gonna target McCaffrey, I think you would’ve seen it elsewhere and other players.
So, , I’m not a, obviously I’m not a Cowboys fan, but I, I, I don’t think they’re that kind of organization.
John Cashman: I think it’s an interesting question because I think what teams are realizing, and frankly I’m kind of realizing it too, ’cause he’s, he’s still, we still haven’t had him for a year, is he is really hard to bring down, you know, you kind of think of him as more of a, , like catching, running back. Oh, he is gonna catch you.
He is gonna run real fast. He’s gonna get out of bounds. But he’s a hard physical runner and I think a lot of , these defensive players are doing anything they can especially ’cause he uses that stiff arm so well of like, we gotta bring him down. And unfortunately I think sometimes that’s grabbing the face mask , and things like that.
Uh, so I don’t think he’s being targeted. I just think teams are just trying, they, they’re just told you have to bring him down no matter what. , because we might take a 15 yard penalty, but he might take it all the way. , so another question, uh, for both of you guys. , and Tim, you can start on this one. Do you think this is a more of a case of the Niners? Are that good or the cowboys are a bit overrated and you can be pessimistic,
Tim Cashman: yeah, I, well, who, who? Me? coin. The coin toss happens and I’m already like, well, we’re gonna go down 21. , Yeah, I’m gonna go. First of all, the Niners are playing e extremely well. , they’re putting up over 30 points a game. They put up 42 points against, uh, one of the best defenses in the league.
So the Niners are playing at a level. We haven’t seen them play in a long time. , at the same time, I think Dallas came in a very, very confident football team. Uh, they felt that with their defense, I think they felt that defense was going to make some turnovers. They’re gonna make some plays. Dak was going to be able to, you know, potentially exploit, , the 49 ERs.
Um, and, and actually I, I am surprised, I thought we’d see a little bit more, uh, Dak being mobile, but, , I think when the Cowboys, I mean within two plays of the four, his opening drive, they were in Cowboys territory and then they go up seven, nothing. So, yeah, I, I’m going to say that the Cowboys came in a little Sure.
Of themselves, but you know what, what’s, what did you, what did you say earlier in the year, John? I think we were referencing , the Pittsburgh game where everybody has a plan until you get punched in the mouth and the Cowboys got punched in the mouth.
John Cashman: Yep. Brian, what do you think of the old Dallas
Brian Caynan: I think,
John Cashman: America’s team?
Brian Caynan: well, to answer your question, I think first the Niners, I think they, they are that good and they are capable , of being the championship team that we knock on wood. , hope they will be, but as long as they, you know, they, they fire on all cylinders. I think They can be that team in terms of Dallas. ,
Tim Cashman: Hmm.
Brian Caynan: I think they are good and, and their defense is just as good. I just think they, as, as Tim said, they just got punched in the mouth and they just, , were shell shocked. , you know, they
can easily, I mean, if I, if I saw the statistic that they held, you know, in the first four games of the season, they held their teams to, you know, average what 10 points a game. , so they, they are capable. , I just think, you know, one, they had to come here out to Levi’s, they had to come to San Francisco. , two, you know, maybe the stigma of of, of losing to the Niners two times in the playoffs the last two years, , was there. , I think if, if we have to play them again in, in, you know, a second time this season in the playoffs, I mean, we have to come prepared, uh, because I
think Dallas is gonna bring umpteenth more. , effort in this next one, and then, you know, they’re gonna be ready to play
and, you know, that that t-shirt thing is only gonna just, you know,
inspire them even more, , that they need to be.
So, yeah.
John Cashman: Well, I agree wholeheartedly that the Nirs are playing excellent, but I think Dallas is overrated and I don’t think they’re making the playoffs.
Brian Caynan: Ooh,
John Cashman: I’ll
Tim Cashman: Oh, well that, okay. I was gonna, I was going to ask you that question. Do you believe that Dallas is a playoff contender? So, go
John Cashman: they’re a contender. I don’t think they’re gonna make the playoffs because their schedule is fucking brutal. They play, they’re up against the chargers, and we know so far that anybody who goes up against the Niners and plays the next week loses. Now. I don’t trust the coach in with the Chargers. , but then they play the Eagles.
Then they have like a little bit of a bread. I think they play the Panthers and like the commanders and stuff. But their last five games are the Eagles, dolphins, bills. And there’s another one in there that’s like really good. And they have to play Seattle? I think so. I mean, it is just like brutal. Like they have to get through.
So you think, okay, there’s seven teams that are gonna make the playoffs, four division winners, which you know, is probably gonna either be. , Niners Seattle, which are, are on track, Detroit,
Brian Caynan: Yeah. Yep.
John Cashman: , the Eagles, , and then, , new Orleans. Then you have your three wild cards. Well, their strength of schedule is so hard.
That’s like, you have to get up there and like I would put more faith in Los Angeles Rams to win some games more than I would Dallas. it’s going to be interesting if they do. I don’t think they’re getting in real high. , but we’ll see. Uh, but I was not, I was not impressed and as everybody has said, the Dallas has to lead from in front.
If you get up on them, it is really hard for them to come back. , but on that note, let’s look at our keys to Victory. How did we do this week? Well, we did awesome.
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: Niners followed our game plan. You’re welcome, Kyle. Key number one. Tim, do you think we rattled Dack?
Tim Cashman: Well, I think when you throw three straight inter you throw interceptions on three straight series. Yeah. That’s, that’s rattled. That’s rattled. That’s like me not knowing how to play Madden. I heap hitting the wrong button. That’s, that’s,
Brian Caynan: Oh, I’ve seen that happen.
Tim Cashman: that’s, that’s probably not the best analogy. Thank you, Brian.
I look back at, at, at the first, the first interception he threw, uh, that Gibson, , picked off and it was just, I don’t remember the down, I think it was like second and 10, and he just threw kind of a duck, uh, out there. It was sort of like, you know, if you’re playing poker, it’s like, well, I got a pair of sixes I’ve been losing all night.
I’m going with my pair of sixes. It’s kind of, kind of, kind of the, , and then the last pick that Berks picked up, Berks just jumped the route. He just, that I just said like he just knew exactly where Prescott was gonna go with that ball. So Yep, they rattled Deck
John Cashman: , so I’ll take this one ’cause it’s my favorite. We didn’t shut up Chris Collingsworth, but he never had a chance to praise the Cowboys. Never didn’t have one chance. So, , it was actually probably my most enjoyable Chris Collingsworth, , broadcast. there were some things he did say that I just shook my head, but it wasn’t anything.
Oh, the Dallas Cowboys defense, pick it up, bro. Like, just didn’t happen. Brian, we didn’t hear much about mic from
Brian Caynan: You know,
John Cashman: That was our other
Brian Caynan: something you were going, that that was something that the media was just kind of talking about all week. And , you and I, and all of us, we all watch Bleacher and, and Micah Parsons is, he has his own little segment on there. So , he’s
chirping, he’s talking, he’s ready for this game. And, um, yeah, I think the Niners had a really strong game plan against him. , I think, what did he have? Maybe one sack? , I gotta look at the statistics, but I think there was one he took down like, um, uh, Purdy in the, in the, um, uh, behind the line of scrimmage. But, you know, he was pretty much, ,
a, a, a non, I, I wouldn’t say non-factor because I hope he is not listening to the podcast ’cause it’s gonna, probably gonna fire him up. , he just wasn’t, um, he wasn’t what I expected him to be in terms of, , his presence. Um, you know, yeah. But we’ll see.
John Cashman: Yeah. And
Tim Cashman: Uh,
John Cashman: we were, you and I were talking about that, and I, I kind of think with Dan Quinn didn’t use him very well.
Tim Cashman: well, certainly, I mean, I, if, if we go back to week one and we do, we look at what TJ Watt did against Colton MCTs, and I think all three of us were like, oh God, if that’s Micah Parsons, , we got problems. Um, and no, we, we didn’t, we didn’t hear from, from Micah Parsons. Well, we heard from him before the game, and we heard from him after the game, but we did not hear from him during the game.
So, yeah, I mean, they were lining him up. I mean, at some points he was kind of playing off the ball and sometimes he was playing up, you know, he was going up against, , Trent Williams. So I don’t know if that was just countering where he thought Shanahan was gonna go with the ball, or it was just sort of a, a, a means to get the 49 ERs, uh, off balance.
But, , Johnny, you were, Zi were saying, you know, we weren’t really seeing the stunts. We weren’t really seeing, you know, Parsons trying to get favorable matchups. It just seemed like, , he just, he just was out of the plays. Either the Niners were, you know, blocking him effectively, or they were getting, or they were just, you know, getting away from him, , on certain run plays.
So, yeah. Non-factor.
John Cashman: Yeah. They did a really good job of containing him. And then the other really good job they did was they kept him outta the end zone except for, for one play. And, and Tim, you pointed this out in the notes, which I didn’t realize. Dallas never actually entered the re zone to even put up a red zone. So what’s the farthest they got down, like the 25?
Tim Cashman: , I gotta look that up. But , it was, yeah. Zero. Uh, and, and I will say that, that that touchdown pass that, uh, that deck threw in the second quarter, , that was an amazing throw. And he did that with Armstead breathing right down his neck. So, um,
Brian Caynan: I watched that, I watched that highlight all day. And then, you know, in preparation for this, so Turpen, that guy who was in motion, that guy was, he was coming off. Um, and he was pretty fast. And I think, I guess his speed
just passed. What, , who was it? Isaiah Oliver, um, on that one. And he just got
beat. , Oliver just got beat
on that one, and then
it was,
that Hka was
late to come over.
So, you know, kudos to
Dallas on that one. They got, they got their touchdown.
Tim Cashman: So, John, to answer your question, the, uh, deepest Dallas penetrator was to San Francisco 26, and that was on that touchdown pass.
John Cashman: that’s ridiculous.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: Um, for us. Um,
Tim Cashman: , I’ll give you more ridiculous eight first downs for the Dallas offense.
John Cashman: It’s just, it’s such a bludgeoning, , turnovers. Well, um, we had one, uh, which was kind of a weird one, C M C. I’m like, oh, he is almost got a touchdown. Then he just kind of dropped the ball. But Dallas had of course, what, four?
Tim Cashman: They had three picks and then, , we had the, , Pollard fumble that, uh, that Warner, um, that, that Warner punched
John Cashman: Yeah. So the Niners right now are plus seven. I think they’re leading the N F L in turnover differential. So we, we checked that box Brian, you got to see, , one of your guys, , while we didn’t establish the run with C M C, who, who made his appearance
Brian Caynan: our buddy Jordan Mason, he, he had, oh
John Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: he had a pretty good game coming in as, as, uh, CMCs, uh, spell. So, , I didn’t realize he even had 69 yards, like in 10 rushes. So I mean, he beat out C M C. , you know, 19, 19 rushes for 51 yards. But, um, I. Yeah, he, he did well. And what’d he have that like, almost like 30 yard touchdown run? , I, I don’t know
if Dallas was like just falling asleep or they’re ready to go home, but they, they let our number two
running back or, uh, wait, she, wait. Elijah Mitchell, he’s our number two, but they let Jordan Mason in and he, uh, you know, he got a really long run. So it was great to see
that for Jordan Mason.
Tim Cashman: Well, I mean, yeah, and, and I was thrilled to see, well, I think a couple reasons. One, I, I think all of us have been, we, we’ve seen Jordan Mason in spots, , you know, late last year in particular against the Raiders. And, uh, he had some nice runs, uh, close out the game against the Seahawks. But he’s a great, just, he’s, he runs downhill.
, he’s a very physical back. I, I think he’s, you know, probably, , like they’ve said or we’ve described him, he’s kinda like the relief pitcher when, when the defense is tired and they’re reeling, which, , I think they were doing in the fourth as, as Brian, you know, just pointed out, that’s when you, you bring in Jordan Mason.
But I think I’ll, I’ll say this, I think with, , as much as I like Elijah Mitchell, uh, the injury history, uh, I think it continues to be, , an issue for him. You know, he, he has a knee injury. I know he is day to day, but I think Mason is after this game. I think he is legitimately the number two back right now for the Niners.
I don’t know if you guys
Brian Caynan: know, and I, I texted you guys, like, during the game, like I, I was surprised to see Mitchell out again. Like I, I thought, you know, he didn’t get much
touches at the weekend before. I thought he was gonna be fine, but like he’s, he was out again. So, I don’t know. It’s just, it’s just something with over there.
Yeah.
John Cashman: Well, I’ll, I’ll say this. Given the running back history we’ve had, I am happy to have all of these guys healthy.
Tim Cashman: Uh, very true.
John Cashman: you know, if Elijah comes back and has a great game next week, awesome. You know, if Jordan keeps doing it for a while, great. If Ty Davis price gets hot, awesome. I mean, it’s a good problem to have.
Um,
Tim Cashman: Yes.
John Cashman: so let’s move on to our stars of the game. Brian, why don’t you lead us
Brian Caynan: oh man. You know, it’s easy to say what, what I think you’re gonna say, but I’m gonna go with my buddy George Kittle, number 85. He had three touchdowns, , and he was long overdue. I’ve been like wanting him to score for forever, at least get some more touches on the ball. But Purdy finally looked him, I think they were soulmates last year at the end of last season.
You know, when Purdy came in, he had two touchdowns, I think, in one of the games. But it, it was just awesome to see George Kittle get back out there. , he’s gonna be my star of the game with the three touchdowns. Three catches, three touchdowns. So that is my star of the game. Tim
Tim Cashman: I am gonna go back to Brock Purdy, um, I mean a game on national television for touchdowns. . , his awareness, uh, his anticipation of where the receivers are going to be, the timing of his throws, the accuracy of his throws. , he’s legit. And, you know, let’s just, let’s put the whole, um, Brock Purdy is, , you know, we, we don’t know about him yet.
No. We, we know, we know.
John Cashman: yeah.
Brian Caynan: I.
John Cashman: feeling okay about it.
Tim Cashman: all know, you know that. I know that, you know that. I know. And I know, you know.
John Cashman: , I’m waiting for Grant Cohen to say something stupid. , I have two stars of the game. My first star goes to Fred Warner, who not only leads by example, but had an interception of force fumble a sack. And I think he’s actually able to somehow make himself into two Fred Warners because he seems like he’s everywhere on the field. At one point he is covering Brandon Cook’s like 50 yards downfield.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: point. He is rushing the, it’s like he’s everywhere. , and his recognition Brian walked through it, , earlier so good. And that’s just like, it’s just him studying, he just is a football savant. , and honestly, he, at this point He really sh if he continues on, he should be up for defensive player of the year. , you know, TJ Watt’s having a great year. Mike kind of cooled off a little bit. Miles Garrett’s kinda up there. Nick hasn’t gotten going, but I mean he just looks awesome. , my second star of the game and is gonna go to the special teams unit, especially Mitch Wasowski and the Gunners, because Mitch pinned the Cowboys under the five twice. And Ronnie Bell got both of those and he’s been doing that a lot. and that’s a weapon. I mean, if you can flip the field like that, it’s just like, it just makes the other team have so much more to cover. , so those are my two stars. I mean, really you’re gonna giving game balls to everybody. It was just, Everybody played just great. , but as I like to say, it’s not all sunshine and lollipops. , Tim, any places you think the Niners can still improve?
Tim Cashman: John, I’m gonna disagree with you this week. It is all sunshine and lollipops,
John Cashman: Brian
Brian Caynan: I, I, you know, I, the only thing I would have to say would be Isaiah Oliver. He’s awesome, but he just, he just didn’t catch up with turban and he let that touchdown go. But I mean, that’s being nitpicky, , because it was a touchdown. But other than that, I mean, it was, it was just an awesome game.
So,
Tim Cashman: was, there was a couple clouds in the sky. The wind was blowing slightly harder than I wanted it to.
Might’ve seen a hotdog wrapper on the field at one point.
John Cashman: in, in a bit of a role reversal with my brother, um, this is my only one and we can talk about it for just a little bit. would you be concerned that the Niners are playing too well too soon?
Brian Caynan: Hmm.
Tim Cashman: No, . I, I don’t get the sense of this team, uh, is, is peaking. I think they’re just, they’re playing exceptionally well right now. , and I think you see that in the locker room that you know, Hey, we can get better. We can get better, and this team is going to face some adversity through the season. And we’ll see how they react to that.
But, No, I think frankly, , the talent they have, the system they have, the organization they have, you’re seeing, you’re seeing that being produced on the field. I would also, I’ll, I’ll put you this way. Would you rather be the 49 ERs right now? Or rather, would you rather be the cowboys and hope that you peak and Yeah.
Yeah. So, so yeah. I mean, you know, you know, granted, you know, things happen. Teams, you know, get hot at the start of the season and things can fall apart. And that could happen for a number of reasons. You know, players get hurt or something, tragic happens. But, , no, I’m not, I’m not getting that sense from, from the Niners.
And even after the Cowboys game, you saw in the locker room, hey, they celebrated for a little while, and then it’s like, all right, we gotta go to next week.
Brian Caynan: I think the Niners just after the disappointing loss against the Eagles and the actually championship game and, and you know, the way that, that it had happened
and transpired. They’re definitely on a mission
and I feel like, , I just, I just feel like it’s, I’m not gonna say the year, but I just feel like, you know, they went out on a bad note the year before. I. And they’re just, they’re, they just wanna take care of business and they, they
don’t want, they don’t want any slip ups. They, just wanna, you know, perfect their craft and, you know, let’s see them do it. So that’s what I kind of think.
Tim Cashman: That’s a great point. Brian
John Cashman: Yeah. Cool. Well, let’s, let’s get to the non sunshine and lollipops, which is John’s betting results from week four or five, whatever the hell week we’re in. , y I went oh and six.
Brian Caynan: Ouch.
John Cashman: So now, yeah, it was just like, okay. , so overall I’m 13, 15 and one, which means I’m now in the red. So, , the bills apparently forgot to bring their offense through customs, uh, because they lost the Jags.
And I mean, this is one of those things that I’m like, What the hell man, . Like, they just, they did not look good from the GetGo. And apparently I found out they didn’t arrive in London until Friday. I’m like, dude, come on. Like, you guys could have gotten there a lot earlier , and got adjusted. Um, yeah, but I didn’t know that back on Tuesday, , Baltimore, uh, against the Steelers, , the Ravens can’t catch a football.
And I was watching on Get Up and Rex Ryan made this point. Apparently they ro they warm up with a rugby ball, which is like this, like ginormous, and he’s like, and they kept missing it. Why? Because their hands are this far apart. I’m like, uh, but I mean, I thought I had that one because the Ravens were rolling.
just kept dropping the ball. , Texans over Falcons again with the field goals. They’re just killing me. Texans almost pulled that one out. Rams over Philly. I lost the brotherly shove. , Arizona Sensei, uh, Joe Burrow actually remembered that he was Joe Burrow. , so lost that one. And then, , the Packers last night lost to the Raiders.
Jimmy G uh, even though he did throw interception, uh, did get the win. But, , Jordan Love couldn’t, couldn’t get it down at the end. He shouldn’t have thrown that ball, uh, at the very end anyway. And then in my survivor league, of course, the bill’s lost, so now I’m out. So it was a rough week, but we’re back for another week.
So let’s see if we can get this back into positives. Over this week, I’ve got, , over 39 for the Niners Browns. Now, both defenses are playing really well, but I think with, I think the Niners, since the Niners have posted 30 plus in five weeks in a row, I’m just kind of betting that it’s gonna be like 30 to like.
10 or something like that. So I think you’re gonna get over that one. , Tim, don’t hate me for this one, but I got Seattle over the Bengals by two and a half.
Tim Cashman: I am so disappointed in you
John Cashman: I know.
Brian Caynan: Hmm.
That’s a smart bet.
John Cashman: if if I lose, you can go, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Um, saints and Texans, I’m going over 41 in this game. , both offenses have looked pretty decent.
CJ Stroud continues to, to look good. , and then Tampa Bay, Detroit over 43. , I really like what Jared Goff and Detroit’s doing on offense. And Baker’s coming off of a by, uh, and they’re looking, they’re looking really good. So, um, Brian, I don’t know if you saw any Niners props
Brian Caynan: did not, I think it’s really early in the week. , so I didn’t see any yet. I,
John Cashman: Yeah, I mean, I might just ride the C M C train for touchdowns and just, I know it’ll be a negative, like, it’ll be like, bet 10 to get back five.
But I mean like, why not just keep riding on C M C? , I also might bet Brock Purdy has in terms of over, uh, the yards because he’s just been hot lately, so. , but yeah. So now brings us to Diners’, trivia time with Brian. So Brian, what do you got for this week? Is it
Brian Caynan: Very Cleveland themed?
Okay. Question number one. , the beloved Dwight Clark was the GM of the Browns from 99 to 2001, , named two of the three first round draft picks he had during that time.
Tim Cashman: Two of the three. One is Tim Couch.
John Cashman: , you beat me on that one.
Brian Caynan: They also had the number one pick in 2000. So I’ll, I’ll give you that little hint.
Tim Cashman: All right.
John Cashman: It is not, it’s not Ray Lewis, is it? I’m gonna go Ray Lewis. ’cause there was one point where the Cleveland, he was actually in Cleveland Brown. Then he, all of a sudden he moved to Baltimore. But I don’t know if that was like
Tim Cashman: Yeah. I don’t know.
John Cashman: or 97.
Tim Cashman: No. Yeah, I mean, I remember Tim Couch because, uh, I, I remember a story that, , Clark was saying later, like, , because Mike Ditko wanted Ricky Williams so bad, ended up getting him that he was offering virtually the entire draft, draft picks of the, of the Saints at the time when he was coaching them.
, and they ended up saying, no, we, we need a franchise player. And they went with Tim Couch. So, um, I don’t know Brian, that’s the only one I can, uh, think of right now.
Brian Caynan: All right. So you guys say Tim Couch. All right,
moving on question number two. So as we, well, as some of our listeners may know, The original Cleveland Browns went away, I think was in 95. , they were gone for what,
four years. And then they came back in 99
when, when Dwight Clark became their GM name. One of the three players selected in the expansion draft in 1999 that the Browns took from the Niners.
Tim Cashman: Browns took from the Niners. ,
Brian Caynan: Very close
John Cashman: I, I have no idea
Tim Cashman: I am trying to think who the Niners had on in 98 that would’ve gone to the Browns in 99. ,
Brian Caynan: I will give you, I’ll give you guys a hint. , one of them is a cornerback
Tim Cashman: I will go, I’ll go. When? When was a cornerback? A cornerback? , I’ll go Antonio
Brian Caynan: Okay. John, anything from you
John Cashman: I got, uh, Joe. Joe, bag of
Brian Caynan: close.
Tim Cashman: I, I wanna say another quarterback. I want to say the Niners at one point, uh, had, uh, didn’t they have Detmer on their team? Um, as a quarterback.
Brian Caynan: They did
have ’em.
Tim Cashman: Okay.
Brian Caynan: They did have ’em for a
Tim Cashman: yeah. I don’t know if that was in the expansion draft, but, , yeah, I’ll, I’ll say Langham and Dettmer.
Brian Caynan: Alright, John. Mr. Donuts? Is that what you said?
John Cashman: Yeah. Joe. Bag of donuts.
Brian Caynan: Okay. , question number three. Orlando Brown. Why did he sit out? He was a Cleveland Brown. Why did he sit out from
2000 to 2002? He,
John Cashman: Oh,
Brian Caynan: he’s offensive tackle for the, for the Browns. What happened to him to sit out 2000, 2001 and 2002.
John Cashman: Oh, was that the guy who had the, , flag went into his face mask?
Tim Cashman: Oh yeah. I think you’re right, John.
John Cashman: All right. That’s my answer. Guy who
Tim Cashman: I’ll, I’ll go with
John Cashman: into
Brian Caynan: answer.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: Sure.
Brian Caynan: last question. This one’s a gimme name. The Cleveland Brown Super fan who was in 1999 at the Rein, the first game of the Browns in part of the pregame show,
uh, named three
of his shows. Very close. Not that guy. , this guy was on TV named three of the shows this person was on.
Tim Cashman: drew Carey, , whose line is it anyway? Price is right and, , oh, what was that sitcom? He did,
John Cashman: It looks like Cleveland Rocks or
Tim Cashman: Cleveland Rocks or, yeah, he’s like, I, I, I can’t remember the name of the sitcom, but I can remember the Price is Right. And whose line is it? Anyway, so
Brian Caynan: John, anything from you?
Tim Cashman: I can’t remember the show.
John Cashman: I, I just know the theme show is Cleveland Rocks.
Tim Cashman: Rocks.
John Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: All right, we will answer these later. Let’s move on.
John Cashman: Okay.
Tim Cashman: All right. Well,
John Cashman: right. Well,
Tim Cashman: I gotta brush up on my Cleveland History Apparently.
John Cashman: Yeah, . , so, so that brings us to the end of Cowboys week. We move on to the Browns. Now, the, the biggest question mark on the Browns is who’s gonna be their quarterback? , so recently, as of today, uh, Deshaun Watson’s still day to day now, Tim, I, I find this kind of interesting because he’s a great, he’s a great, when he’s on, he is a great
Tim Cashman: Yeah. Right.
John Cashman: and he is mobile and we have to contain the mobile quarterback. But I think this is kind of a disadvantage because if he’s not practicing, he wasn’t practicing during their buy. So I kind of think they’re gonna start with pj, what do you think?
Tim Cashman: , no, I agree with you. I mean, when Watson is on and, and we’ve seen him, and he’s had those moments in his career, , it’s, it is a tough one to call. , because I. Yeah, I, I think that Niners are, you know, obviously we’ve talked about their challenges with mobile quarterbacks, but, uh, at the same time, you know, we’ve also said, , it’s the complimentary football and when your defense has kind of been letting down, then your offense has been able to pick it up.
So, , I, I don’t know. I think it’s gonna be a game time decision. I’m leaning towards seeing Watson play, , because the Browns are two and two, they’re coming off a bi-week, so I’d be surprised if Watson isn’t behind center come Sunday.
John Cashman: Okay, so key to victory number one, contain the, the quarterback. , Brian, you think the Niners, could this be a letdown game?
Brian Caynan: Uh, I sure effing hope not. , I think Steve Wilkes and, uh, Shanahan and John Lynch have ’em all kind of fired up that, you know, they’re men on mission, so I’m hoping not, they don’t have a, uh, downer game and,
so I don’t expect that to happen. But, you know, stranger things have happened, but no.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
John Cashman: Yeah. That, that’s kind of key. Number two for me is don’t let it be a let down game, you know, yet you’re rolling high. Just go in there, take care of business. , and uh, Tim, I had key number three. since 2003, the Browns coming off of buy are eight and 12. Do you think, I mean, do you think an advantage of teams coming off of buys, I mean, unless you’re Andy Reed or Bill Belichick,
Tim Cashman: , is there an advantage of coming off a buy? , I, I, I usually, I like to have, if you know an ideal world, I, I like to have the Nirs get a buy in kind of the middle of the season, and we’re actually having that, uh, I think it’s, what three, three more games in are on the buy. Uh, because I think at that point, you know, it’s a halfway point.
, you can get some players back that, you know, have been on ir, you know, those players are kind of banged up, get a little time off to let their bodies, uh, heal. , so I don’t, I don’t know. I, I, I think it, frankly, it’s where your team stands right now. And you know, Cleveland as I know we’re gonna get to the next, , the next key to victory here, yet, yes, they’re having some questions at, at quarterback, but they’re tuned.
And two, And they’ve got a pretty good defense. So they’re coming in well rested and this is a test to see, where do they stand and what better measuring tick, uh, measuring, um, stick than the 49 ERs coming in who just, you know, beat the cowboys and handily on, on a, on a Sunday night.
John Cashman: Well, let’s talk defense. So, , right now the Browns, I think are the number one defense after the Niners took care of the Cowboys, , miles Garrett, which I believe he pretty much, , is on the left side, so it’ll be Miles versus Trent.
Tim Cashman: Hmm.
Brian Caynan: Yikes.
John Cashman: , but, and then I, you guys hope maybe knows more than I do, , but who else on the, on the Cleveland Browns defenses is someone to look out for?
Brian Caynan: Uh, didn’t they take that guy from,
John Cashman: I mean, it’s just,
Brian Caynan: from Green Bay? Was it, um, Smith?
John Cashman: Oh, it was like Zacharia Smith,
Brian Caynan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember he was always good on Green Bay, but I mean, honestly, I don’t,
I don’t, um, I don’t wanna know. I don’t know a lot of names on that, uh, on that team that come to mind so far.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, I mean, miles Garrett, , he’s got, you know, five and a half sacks on the year. Um, there’s, uh, another defensive end, uh, and I wanna say his, his name is, um, or something like that. He’s got three sacks coming in, so they’re able to get to the quarterback. , it wouldn’t surprise me if they ended up trying to employ the same defense that, uh, the Cowboys did.
, playing that cover one. And so I think, you know, again, they’re gonna, they’re gonna try to, you know, , put eight in the box. They wanna slow C m C down. They wanna force Brock Purdy to try and beat them. And the hope is that, you know, you get the Niners in the third and seventh and you, you, you make enough third down stops that you give your opportunity.
You give, you give your of offense a chance to put some points on the board. You may get one or two turnovers. But I, I think frankly, for the Niners to lose, , two things are gonna have to happen. Uh, number one, they’ll have to be an emotional letdown where they come out flat and the Browns , get a jump on ’em, you know, they go up, you know, uh, 10, 10 points.
And we see the Niners play a type of game we haven’t seen thus far. And the second is that the nighters start beating themselves. , they have a holding call at, you know, on a third and four. Uh, that, you know, shouldn’t have happened. They get a pass interference call that sets the browns up with a, you know, a scoring opportunity.
So, you know, yes, the Browns have a good defense on paper. , when you look at these two teams, the Niners far and wide have the better talent. Uh, but, you know, football’s an imperfect game. So, , NIS just need to do, just continue what they’ve been doing, just take care of business, get off to the, you know, the good starts.
And if the NIS get up early, I think they’re in business. If the Browns, you know, get up on ’em or early, then we’re gonna have a ball game.
John Cashman: Yeah. I think it’s a good point. , and then last but not least, I think we’ll do this for all three of us, and we’ll start with Brian. Which star do you think is gonna shine? Because that’s kind of been one of the keys of victory is there’s been, every week there’s been someone new.
Brian Caynan: , I think this week I’m gonna lean towards a receiver. I know Kittle had his day and then C M C had his day, so. Uh, I’m gonna go with Deebo. , I think it’s easy to pick Ayu, but I, I’m just gonna go with Deebo. I think, you know, they put him, they employed him last week into a lot of, uh, into the passing game, and also they gave him like his, , his rushes. Um, so I think he’s kind of back doing a little bit of both. Um, probably even more leaning towards the, the receiving end. But, um, you know, as under fans, we don’t want him to run so much so as he gets smacked. But, , yeah, I’m gonna lean towards him. Um, if he can get out there, , I, I’m expecting him to have a big day and I’ll hopefully see him to get in the end zone at least once or twice. Tim, what do you.
John Cashman: Cool, Tim,
Tim Cashman: I am gonna go with George Kittle. I think Kittle, , I think kettle’s on a roll. I think if the, Browns play a similar defense that the Cowboys did. We saw what Kittle can do, and I think he’s gonna get up into some, I think he can get behind the linebackers and, and in front of the secondary. I think Purdy’s gonna be able to get some, uh, play action passes out to him.
And then we’ve seen what he can do once he catches the ball with the arts act, the catch. , so I think, I think I’m, I’m gonna see another, uh, pretty good game from George Kittle.
John Cashman: I’m gonna go with two. , one, , one because it’s always seems to me that it’s a new star every week. And I was trying to think of guys that we, we haven’t really seen yet. I’m gonna go with Jawan
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah. Third down.
John Cashman: I think we’re gonna see Jawan like all of a sudden be part of the offense because he’s kind of been a little bit of, I mean, he still blocks his ass off.
, I think we’re gonna see a little bit more jawan in this game. and I think that’s gonna be another thing that they’re gonna put on tape that are for the future. The Niners are basically gonna be saying to defensive coordinators, like, who are you gonna guard? Because we have ’em all. And then my next star of the game is gonna be Nick Bosa. I think this is the game. Nick Bosa has three sacks and I think
Tim Cashman: little bit of a homecoming forum in Ohio
Brian Caynan: Oh yeah.
John Cashman: I think I’m gonna be running, , about three, four and a half miles. ,
Brian Caynan: I, we all hope
so.
John Cashman: I think he’s, yeah, I think he, well he is, he’s had like 60 a ton of pressures, but, you know, he’s only got one and a half sacks. But I think especially if they’re spart the backup quarterback, when we are known to double clutch, it’s just that much more time for boas to eat.
I think the Bear’s gonna, you know, it’s, it’s ironic ’cause on National Park we, it’s Fat Bear Week, which we all know that Nick Boas is not fat. I’m not saying that, but they’re eating and I think, but Bear’s going to eat.
Tim Cashman: Yeah,
john-cashman_1_10-10-2023_210736: so
Tim Cashman: he’s
John Cashman: Brian,
Brian Caynan: Mm-hmm.
John Cashman: yeah, you gotta feed those quads. His, his arms aren’t exactly small either.
, so Brian, , why don’t you tell us, this is the toughest, I think, of your trivia question. So why don’t you give us the, uh, the, the trivia results.
Brian Caynan: right. I to make ’em this week just a little bit harder than, uh, the week before, but, uh,
okay.
Tim Cashman: Oh, I, I think mission accomplished on
John Cashman: Yeah,
Brian Caynan: , Dwight Clark was GM of the Browns from 99 to oh one. The beloved Dwight Clark,
uh, named two of the three first round draft picks he had at the time. So Tim and John, you guys both said who again?
Tim Cashman: Tim Couch.
Brian Caynan: Yep. He had him number one. You’re right. In 1999, number one, , quarterback outta Kentucky, uh, 2000, they had also the number one pick because I think they were two and 14 the year before Courtney Brown outta Penn State defensive end.
Tim Cashman: Mm.
Brian Caynan: I think he only lasted in the league
maybe like
Tim Cashman: remember him.
Brian Caynan: four or five years. , and then, um, he was
out and then, uh, in oh one, they were the number three pick. They had, uh, Gerard Warren outta Florida defensive tackle. So I, I don’t really know much outta him. Um, but, um, I don’t think he, uh, I don’t think they did much with those, , those three picks. Okay. Question number two. Name one of three players selected in the 99 expansion draft from San Francisco. , John, you said Mr. Hogan
John Cashman: Throw a bag of donuts.
Brian Caynan: I don’t see his name ever
existing. Um,
John Cashman: Yeah.
Tim Cashman: player.
Brian Caynan: uh, Tim, uh, you said who,
Tim Cashman: I said Antonio, Langham and Detmer.
Brian Caynan: , you were absolutely right about Langham. So he was a cornerback. He was, uh, I think the 37th pick outta a, it was 30, 37th pick in the expansion draft. And he’s a corner out of Alabama, so, , yeah, he did play for Cleveland, Baltimore, San Francisco, then back to Cleveland and then New England, so you’re absolutely right.
Good one. Good job, Tim. , number three. Why did,
oh, sorry. Forgot
Tim Cashman: was? Was it?
Brian Caynan: Steve Gordon. He was a center outta California and then
James Williams linebacker outta Mississippi State. So, not Demer. Not
demer.
Tim Cashman: All
John Cashman: They all sound like Joe, bag of donuts to me,
Brian Caynan: I don’t think those guys lasted long. All right. Number
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: question number three, why did Orlando Brown, who was on the Browns, , sit out the, the, uh, 2000, 2001 and 2002 seasons? , John, you said for what reason again?
John Cashman: A referee threw a flag and it entered into his helmet and hit him in the eye.
Tim Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: no, you guys are absolutely right. So it was a game in December of 99 against the Jaguars. The ref, , Jeff Triplet threw a flag and it landed through the helmet, hit him in the eye, and brown left the game temporarily, then returned back on the field to shove Triplett. and then knocking to the grounds.
I, I kind of
remember that happening.
John Cashman: Mm-hmm.
Tim Cashman: remember that.
Brian Caynan: was escort, he was, um, ejected from the game and escorted out, but he was, his, uh, he was suspended by the league, but it was, , rescinded, um, because they realized that his, uh, he had a really bad eye injury, so he actually had to miss three
seasons due to temporary blindness in that eye that he got hit in.
So, , rest in peace. He passed away in 2011, by the way,
so, yeah.
Tim Cashman: I’m sorry to hear that.
John Cashman: Yeah, I think I remember reading like he and Triplett ended up making amends and triplet was like just horrified that that had happened. , you know, it’s just one of those, it was totally freak freaking occurrence. I mean, you know, it’s a freaking flag going into a helmet hitting you in the eye. Like that’s just
Brian Caynan: I guess as I think they put like ball bearings in there to keep the weight down, but I think it just happened to be at the right
angle and it just got ’em in the, got
him in the face.
John Cashman: Yeah. But now they just, they throw ’em on the ground, like,
Brian Caynan: throw up in the air, right?
John Cashman: even take a chance.
Brian Caynan: yeah.
John Cashman: Yeah.
Brian Caynan: anyway.
John Cashman: anyway.
Brian Caynan: oh, last one name the Cleveland Brown
super fan who was at the nine at the Recar Reincarnation of the Browns in 99 and three of his shows.
John Cashman: Mm-hmm.
Brian Caynan: Tim? Oh, close.
Tim Cashman: I said, uh, drew Carey and I, and the three shows were Price was Right. , uh, sland is, anyway, and I don’t, I didn’t remember the third one, but I, I, I, I want to guess it was the Drew Carey show.
Brian Caynan: , John said, uh, Cleveland Rocks, but it was called the Drew Carey Show. Tim,
so good one. I was gonna do a question about the dog pound in Arsenio Hall, but I just couldn’t find like a really good question to ask. But, uh, that was, that was on my list of gonna be my other one. So,
John Cashman: I’ll do, I’ll do one. , dog pound trivia is, so the dog pound used to bring in this big doghouse, , every Sunday and the security guard’s like, oh, okay. It’s just the usual doghouse. But what they didn’t realize is that the dog Pound had put an entire keg of beer into the dog house, . They would just sit there and drink beer out of the dog house for the entire time.
I’m like, I’m like, oh, this is way lighter. Bringing it outta here. Um,
Brian Caynan: a good one.
John Cashman: yeah. So, so Tim, final thoughts after on Dallas Week and Cleveland Browns.
Tim Cashman: , you put a 42 to 10 beat down on what a lot of people were saying was the, of the best teams in the league. , and your five and out. Uh, just ni just need to go out, keep, keep going out there and taking care of business. But John, I, I would say this about the Cowboys. I would not be surprised to see the Dallas bounce back against the Chargers.
I would not be surprised to see them in the playoffs. I do think, still think they’re a serious playoff contender.
John Cashman: Okay.
Brian Caynan: Uh, same. I I do think they’re gonna bounce back. , I think McCarthy’s gonna learn from this and, um, you know, Dan Quinn and, you know, they’re gonna come back strong. , and yeah, take care of business
next week. So,
Tim Cashman: yeah.
I just think they have too much talent.
Brian Caynan: Yeah.
John Cashman: Yeah, I, I just, I think the Cowboys are gonna, are going to implode. I think McCarthy’s gonna lose his job after this year, and I don’t think they make the playoffs, but this is Niners talk, not cowboys talk. , it feels good to be five and Oh, just keep the, keep it going. , early start, , 1:00 PM uh, won’t be doing chicken wings like I did last week, which we’re
Brian Caynan: Oh, so were mine.
Oh
John Cashman: Uh
Brian Caynan: yeah. I loved him.
John Cashman: uh, so I don’t know what I’ll be doing. It’s a 1:00 PM start, so it’s early. , I guess I’ll have lunch. Um, Tim, what are you gonna be doing for the game?
Tim Cashman: Well, what I won’t be doing is sitting on my couch, um, you know, having, , Gatorade and some Advil since I broke out into a fever, um, during the Cowboys game. I, I will say, when you have a bit of a fever and you kind of have that, you know, kind of zen feeling from the NyQuil starting to take effect, it’s really less stressful to watch the game. I’m, I’m not saying I’m an advocate for it, I’m just saying that’s what happened. I was kinda like, yeah, I think I’m pretty, pretty good not feeling any stress. So,
John Cashman: and, and fortunately your new TV is one and Oh, so we don’t have to take it back
Brian Caynan: Good one.
Tim Cashman: yes, sir.
John Cashman: So Brian, what are you gonna do
Brian Caynan: an early start here on the West coast, so 10 o’clock, , yeah, I’ll be watching it at home, probably drinking some coffee and then, um, depending on how they do, and then, you know, I might crack open a cold adult beverage around halftime, so we’ll see. But, uh, yeah, I’ll be at home watching, watching this game, so
John Cashman: Yeah, I think I’m gonna like, I’ll take it in at, at. Uh, one o’clock and then if, all goes, well probably go play a little golf at four, just play a quick nine. Um, so hopefully in victory, other than that, look out for the eclipse on Saturday. Should be pretty cool. And other than that, Niners, just keep the faith.
Talk to you next week.
