John Cashman: What is up, Niners Nation? It is Victory Tuesday!
Tim Cashman: Wednesday. No, it’s Wednesday.
John Cashman: Damn, I still feel good after that game. Tim, how are you feeling?
Tim Cashman: You know what, John? We’re gonna go back to how you’re feeling. I, I think, , and here’s, and here’s why. Because, John, you’re the one who lives just outside of Philadelphia. You’re the one who is surrounded by Eagles fans. And you’re the one who’s had to deal with being in the state of Pennsylvania, right outside of Philadelphia, surrounded by Eagles fans for the last ten So, I’m going to go out, uh, on a limb here, although I don’t think it’s much of a limb.
I had this vision of John, Monday morning, coffee in hand, bathrobe. Maybe a ski cap on. Comes out of his house and he yells the quintessential line from Coming to America, Good morning my neighbors! Is John, was my vision correct?
John Cashman: Fuck you! Yes, fuck you too!
Tim Cashman: So, I think we need to start with you, John. How are you feeling?
John Cashman: I feel fantastic. I, even on Wednesday, I feel fantastic from the game. , There are two types of Eagles fans. There’s the sane Eagles fan, and then there’s the insane Eagles fan.
I’m friends with And they’re like, that’s a good football team.
, they understand, like, yeah, it was just, it was just trying to stand in front of a rolling train. It wasn’t going to happen. The insane ones are just all about like, oh, fire Nick Sirianni. Can’t believe the Eagles would do this. Fire everybody. It’s like, okay, slow your roll. You know, , it’s fine. I had an HVAC guy over to my house on Monday to, you know, service the heat pump and, you know, of course he wants to talk about the Eagles.
And I’m
Tim Cashman: like, John, did you deliberately schedule him you
Brian Caynan: have any
John Cashman: memorabilia showing up or? No, but he, you know, he was just like, yeah, I mean, we didn’t show up and I, you know, the other thing is. The Eagles have been through a gauntlet. It’s still a really good football team. Yeah, oh absolutely. But the Niners came in with vengeance on their mind.
And that’s a pretty powerful combination. A rested team that just wants to kick the living hell out of you. So. But yeah, I’m feeling great, man. I just feel great. So I’m
Tim Cashman: not going to go, well, I’m not going to go on a, I was going to, I was going to sense a little conspiracy theory of your HVAC guy coming over on Monday, right after the Niners Eagles game.
So, you know, in this. Conspiracy theories and it might be a little bit of a stretch. , yeah, that game by the 49ers was, , a statement and it was a statement on many levels. , I think not only, , physically, athletically, but. Mentally, I have not seen a 49ers team take the field like they did in Philadelphia in pre game, and the chippiness and the trash talk is starting at a high level.
I can only go back to the 90s Cowboys, those classic, classic matchups of both teams just coming in loaded and, , You know, fights breaking out even before the game started. That’s what this game, that’s what this game felt like. And the Niners to come in, , they came in with a chip on their shoulder, it seemed like.
, they were tired of hearing about, you know, um Well, no, let me restate that. Um, they felt like, they, they, that looked like a team that had something to prove. , now, I’m not ever going to say that the Eagles didn’t deserve the WNFC Championship. Sports is sports. You know, injuries happen. Uh, but the Niners felt like they had a missed opportunity.
And they wanted to, I think, not only prove to the Eagles, but prove to the national media, , and the NFL. They put on notice like, hey, we’re the big boys in town. , in short, John, they bullied the bullies. Yeah.
John Cashman: Brian.
Brian Caynan: Oh, it was, it was great. I, I feel like, you know, Tim said most of what I was going to say, if not more, but, , you know, the Niners circled this one December 3, a long time ago when the schedule came out in April or May.
And, and they felt they, they needed to prove themselves. , this was a place where Brock Purdy got hurt. , this is a place where both quarterbacks got hurt. Josh Johnson , and Brock Purdy had to come back in. , and they just got. overwhelmed the last time and they were going to come in here.
I didn’t know if they were going to win, but they were going to be all fired up. So, , you know, different people have different ways of firing themselves up. You know, Debo, he talks a lot of smack and he backed it up. , some people, they just like to remain quiet. They just like to internalize things, but this 49ers team, it, you’re right, Tim.
They’re just bringing back to the chippiness of the nineties. I love it. , and it’s exciting and it’s good for sports because a lot of people, it brings eyes. , the national media loves seeing that. And, , you know, people want to see winners. People also want to see winners lose. , and I think this was just, this was just a great game.
, I didn’t get to watch a lot of it live because I was coming back from, , from Sacramento, , but I listened to a lot of it and had to watch it on replay, but it was, , even better watching it on the replay because you heard all the things that happened on radio. And then you were just coming back to watch it live.
So it was, it was just a great day.
Tim Cashman: Yeah. I was the same way. , I had to Brian, I ran the California international marathon on Sunday. , and we actually did see a few Eagles fans along the way, which, uh, which surprised me and in all places, uh, as Sacramento, California, but, , like Brian, , I was listening to them to probably 95 percent of the game, , listen to Greg Papa.
Uh, Call of the Game. So, my stress level is different. One, because I was very tired from running a marathon. But two, it just, it has a different feel when you’re listening to the radio. And, trying not to hit other cars on the freeway. That’s just, let’s just put that out there. , but, , yeah, like Brian, I, I had to come back and watch this game a couple times.
But, John, just like, great Thanksgiving leftovers. It was even better the next day.
John Cashman: Yeah, so for those of you who are listening for the first time, or those of you who have been tuning in, we’re three obsessed Niners fans who get together weekly to talk Niners ball. , first of all, shout out to everyone who’s listening.
Last week we had probably one of our best Podcast ever in terms of, , streams and, you know, for some reason now, , we’ve been streamed in Poland and Spain, as I’ve said before, we’re just three guys like to get tied together and talk ball, , and have a good time doing it and have a bit of therapy. , so apologies that this is a day late, but, , Tim had to catch a later flight.
And, but it’s still victory Tuesday in
Tim Cashman: my mind. You can’t do a podcast on a plane. I checked., But anyway,
John Cashman: let’s, let’s talk about the game. So you guys obviously had a little bit different experience, , that I did. , I actually started out watching the game upstairs. , on the TV and, , the first, , two series, the Eagles went down and had field goals and the first two series of the Niners were three and out and they, they looked like they were overwhelmed.
Oh yeah. And then I said to myself, I said, Self, this TV has bad juju. We’ve gotta go downstairs and watch it on the other television, and that’s where the Niners roll. So I’ve sent an email to Niners headquarters saying that I’m the reason they won the game because I switched televisions. I haven’t heard back.
Tim Cashman: Really?
John Cashman: No, but , it was probably the most stressful game I’ve had this year because I wanted them to win so badly. From last year, also cause where I live, but mostly because of last year. So I was in full froth, , watching the game. I was pacing the entire time. , there was a lot of fist pumping and there was a lot of go Teebo go.
, but it was, it was awesome. And I didn’t call ball game on our tech strength probably until. They’re literally their last
Tim Cashman: gasp. Devo’s last touchdown. No,
John Cashman: I think it was even after that because it was just like, you know The Jennings touchdown? Yeah. . But yeah, I mean, it was, it was great. , so. But yeah, you guys had it a little bit different because, uh, congrats to you both for finishing the marathon, uh, in Sacramento.
I know, uh, Tim Piard.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, and, , Brian finishes his, his 17th. Marathon. Oh, yeah. Suppressed him. That’s his third this year. So he’s, he’s in monster shape.
Brian Caynan: Ooh, I don’t know about that. I, uh, I’m gonna embrace the suck and say that I suck this one big time. You know, look looking to improve for next year. So, you know Brian you gotta
John Cashman: ease down.
You’re just grinding metal at this point. Oh, there you go.
Brian Caynan: , but I will say I will say, John, that, uh, Tim and I were sitting outside the yard house in downtown, , Sacramento, cause we were waiting for a table to try to sit down and watch the first quarter together. And I, I actually really wanted to see full Tim Niner nervous mode, cause I hadn’t seen that in so long.
And I wanted to see it just live. Cause we’ve always been talking about how we all watch games from afar. It’s,
Tim Cashman: it’s really not something you should aspire to do. It’s not that attractive. I’ll be the first to admit.
Brian Caynan: Uh, okay.
Tim Cashman: , but I’m just saying that, but,
Brian Caynan: um, you know, there was a point in the, after the, I remember asking Tim this, and I put this on the text thread that after we get our second, um, three and out, and then the Eagles just scored their second field goal or something, and we’re only, we’re down six zip, but I said, Oh, do you think the Niners can get the 30 points?
And then, what did Tim say? You said, like, not if they’re playing like this, or some comment to that mistake.
Tim Cashman: That’s exactly what I said. That’s exactly what I said, yeah. And then,
Brian Caynan: boom, right after? Yeah. Six touchdowns in a row.
Tim Cashman: So, so let’s get into the game a little bit. I mean, yeah, that first quarter, I mean, the Niners, we talked about the chippiness in, , pregame, you know, some, some pushing, some shoving, , some trash talking, but the Eagles came out, , swinging.
, and, you know, the first two drives, it just feel like the 49ers were reeling. Uh, defense stepped up big, , only holding them to, uh, to two field goals. And the first, , first two Niner possessions go three and out. I think they had negative yards, uh, at that point. , the Niners had only, I think, a little over two minutes possession in the first quarter, which tells you all you need to know.
So, , but then. I think a key play happens in the early part of the second quarter. , the Niners defense holds. They force, , Philadelphia to punt, uh, which was a, a huge, , a huge break for them. Because at that point, I think the Eagles had scored on their third possession. I, I think we’re talking about a much different ball game here.
, but you go to the Niners possession, uh, they get the ball on their own, , 15 yard line. They get behind the sticks because of a false start penalty. , Purdy hits IU to set up a third and three and then Purdy hit Kittle, , just past the first down marker for three yards. That, those two plays on second and 15 and third and three changed the course of the game because after that, the 49ers started exploiting the middle of the field, , where we knew the Eagles were vulnerable.
And they just, at that point, the 49ers started averaging eight yards per offensive play. , and that’s when they started, you know, that, that was what they scored. Six straight touchdowns, , on, on their, on their next, , six possessions. So I go back to those plays because that I think just said, okay, we’re in this thing.
The defense has held, but we got to score some points. They did just that. So critical time. And then, you know, , the first half ended in a 14, uh, six, you still felt Philadelphia was there, but John, the 49er offense, they just kept moving the ball.
Brian Caynan: Yeah. Brian. Yeah, I was, I remember kind of seeing a lot of that stuff on replay.
, the Niners looked really good. I think if I remember correctly, , gosh, when I was going with this one, uh, this was the play where Iuke had that short touchdown snag that looked like he had a bobble in the, in the end zone for the game. Oh yeah, that, that was just awesome. And then, , getting the Eagles back, , I just, I think, you know, if we just kind of divvy up to the defense really quick, I think that the defense did just an, I’m sorry, the defensive line did an overall really great job of just like, it just seemed like Jalen Hurts, even though he did have his scrambles.
He was mostly in the pocket, like most of the time. And I’m sure that was by design. They were just closing the corners just to make sure he wouldn’t escape and like do something miraculous and like beat us down, down the field for some miraculous throw. But I think the defense was really, . I don’t know if the right word is disciplined, but they just kept him in the pocket the whole time.
And then he, it seemed like, , even though there wasn’t a lot of sacks, I think there were only two sacks by our, by our line. , but I just think it was
Tim Cashman: three, it was three sacks by the way. Yeah.
Brian Caynan: Yeah. Yeah. So I, I just think overall the defensive line held up and well, I’m sure we’ll talk about our corners and safeties.
Sure. They did a really good job too of holding them back too.
John Cashman: Yeah, I thought there was three critical junctures to the game for the Niners. The first is, as Tim mentioned, getting things going. The, really the first was winning the coin toss and deferring because once they scored the second touchdown and they go in 14 6 and then they take the next possession and go right back down the field.
And now it’s 21 6. And it’s like, okay, now we’ve got a two cushion lead. , the third big, , and probably the most pivotal point of the game where I think the Eagles were like, I don’t know, man, was after we had, , the incident with Big Dom and Greenlaw, the Eagles go and score a touchdown. And then they’ve cut it to a one score game.
It was eight points. And then 30 seconds later, Devo catches it and runs it all the way in on some critical blocks from Naughty Bell and Kittle. And at that point, the Eagles are like, Oh man, we can’t, we can’t keep scoring touchdowns. We can’t close the gap. , those are the three, the three critical points of.
Of the game, but, , again, I think a lot of it was the Philly defense had 92 steps the week before, , they can’t, the offense couldn’t sustain a long drive, they’re gassed, but at the same time, the Niners played awesome.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, the 49ers, , never let the Seahawks, , the Eagles, I’m getting my birds confused, I almost said Seahawks.
Uh, Uh, the 49ers never let the Eagles get the momentum back, and I want to, , echo, uh, and, and, and expand on what you just said, uh, John, because, you know, as you said, the, the Niners had built up a 21 6 lead, , there’s that huge, uh, incident, uh, with, you know, the, the, the security guard, Big Dom, as, as he’s called, Drake Greenlaw, getting thrown out, the Eagles score in that game.
They still make it a one possession game. If the Niners don’t score on that next possession, or even get a field goal, , and if memory serves, they did have a couple of third down conversions, , there. , the momentum swings right back to the Eagles, and we’re in a much different ballgame there. But, , the fact that the 49ers, and all credit to you, but I know we’re going to Talk, uh, more about him, uh, in a little bit, but the play that he made, , to not only he catches the ball over middle, but he breaks, , he breaks the tackle of, , of a linebacker and then just turns on the gas.
, and I think he, I don’t, I don’t know if he dragged the last remaining defenders into the end zone, but as you said, John, that was just, you know, okay. The Eagles threw a haymaker 49ers threw a haymaker right back. Yeah, and , you bring up,
John Cashman: , Big Dom, , and you know, it’s something I wanted to talk to you guys about.
Yeah. Uh, when Tim and I talked on Monday, both of us were pretty furious about it. Like, fire him! Fire him! But, , now the news has come out , that he had reached out and apologized, uh, to Drake Rieland. Drake Rieland had apologized, so now it’s all water under the bridge. , But I wanted to get your, both your initial thoughts, and I was going to kind of put on my referee hat on it.
Yeah. And talk to, give my opinion on that. So, Brian, what’d you think of, , the Big Dom incident?
Brian Caynan: I mean, you know, I’ve, I’ve coached youth sports, so I know what, what happens. You’re definitely not supposed to, you know, players are not definitely not supposed to engage with, , other coaches or people in the stands.
, you know, that being said, I think I’m partisan here because I was a Niner fan. Yeah, I would not expect that. , I would not have expected that. Um, I don’t think. Let’s go back to Greenlaw’s hit, though. I don’t, I don’t, like, I see the replays, , wasn’t, wasn’t, uh, Swift still inbound, so, I mean, he was just taking him down, right?
And I know he didn’t really, like, land him on his head or anything, but Well, he did suplex him. I mean,
Tim Cashman: it was a wrestling move. He didn’t back him up. Yeah,
Brian Caynan: I But Okay. But, I, I think You’re right. I, I guess if I, I’m just going back. Let’s go back to that play. Let’s go back to the initial part of that play.
So Greenlaw, he probably went a little overboard. We all noticed that on film and you’re going to get called that. That wasn’t going to, that wasn’t going to get called, you know, 10 years ago, but now it’s going to get called. So it was worthy of 15, 15 yards or so. I think we can all agree that Greenlaw did, did deserve like, an endorsement, like, yeah.
Penalty. , But then going to that incident itself, I think my thoughts are, should, should both of them be disqualified from that game? I, I don’t know I’ve never seen a coach kind of go at it with another. fan. I mean, with another player. Well, I have. I mean, like, I mean, and in that, in that setting and like that, I don’t know, but you know, I’ll ask Tim, like, what do you, do you think you should have been booted or,
Tim Cashman: , well, I’ll go back.
So, I mean, let’s make it, so then again, The situation, the 49ers are up 21 6, , you know, about the early mid third quarter, it’s second and five, Hurts, , throws, , for, you know, 13 yards, you know, for a first down, , And, you know, and it was, , it was, it was, it was, uh, over to Smith. , yeah, I would have thrown the penalty on Greenlaw.
I think he’s been very close in a couple of his tackles. , he’s an extremely physical player. We saw something very similar when he, , I think almost suplexed, , a cowboy running back. I don’t remember who the guy was, , a few weeks ago and that was not called. Um, but I looked at this again, rewatching the tape and I see.
Two plays before, you can see Big Dom on the sideline, and he’s in the coach’s box. And he’s clearly watching the game, engaging with the referees, pointing, applauding. He’s clearly, you know, I guess, Mr. Fan at this point. So, my criticism is really, , at this point, what is he doing in the coach’s box? He’s not a player, he’s not a coach, he’s head of security.
, he is, in my opinion, his job Duties do not, should not allow, or, you know, he should not be there. you know, so, you know, the play happens, uh, he gets in the middle, , and, you know, kudos to him for reaching out to, to great grandma. I think that’s a classy move on, on, on his part to say, I was, you know, hey, I, I got overheated.
, But, you know, he shouldn’t have been there in the first place. , but, but as the rule states, and John, this is where I want you to come in and put your referee hat on, , the referees have to follow the, the NFL rules. So, so John, what is the rule in that situation? So the
John Cashman: rule is, is that, , a player Touch anyone and in the other on the other team coaching wise.
, and if he does, he’s, he’s pretty much automatically ejected. , and it’s, it’s silent on non players, so. Basically what the refs had to do was they had to, , toss Greenlaw and award, I think they had to award another 15 yards, I don’t know, I can’t remember off the top of my head, , but because there’s no rule for non player contact, the Eagles bench Couldn’t receive a penalty, but they could toss big Dom.
So that’s, I mean, yeah, there’s a lot of this talk right now about outlawing the brotherly shove, et cetera. This to me is like a rule that needs to be changed. Like if anybody touches anybody, like you’re gone, it’s as simple as that. , on my end, , I’ve refereed enough games, you know, things are going to get heated, especially as you got rivalry games.
And you roll with it, , but you have to maintain player safety, and you have to maintain, , fair play. And the rule hampers the referee from calling a penalty on Philadelphia, , and negating Dre’s penalty. So the rule needs to be changed. But on the other hand, and this is one of those things that you talk about when you’re either umpiring a baseball or basketball game is there is only one person who can talk to me and that’s the head coach.
Anybody else who talks to me, I’ll go to the head coach and go, you need to have him stop talking to me or I’m going to toss him. And in this frame, , the referee did the exact right thing and, and tossed him because now he had made himself. And the big thing that, and I’m glad they defused it because one of the big unwritten rules in any sports is you do not touch the opposing.
If you’re on that staff, do not touch the opposing team at all. , you know, like how many plays have we seen over the years where, you know, a guy goes into the opposing bench and they just let him be and he gets up and he walks out. , you know, occasionally there might be some jostling between the guys or mouthing, but there’s no touching, that is a big thing.
So that’s where I think Big Dom stepped over the line. I agree, I don’t know why he’s there, , and if there was a guy on the 49ers who was there, I don’t know why he would be there either, like, you know, I understand you’re part of security, but you should either be in a booth looking at camera screens, or you should have your back to the field looking for crazy people coming out of the stands.
Tim Cashman: Yeah. Yeah, , and I’ll just say, you know, in this situation, it could have gotten a whole lot worse. I mean, you’re in a heated moment, you’ve got players on both sides, , in a big emotional game, , and this thing clearly could have gotten out of hand. Fortunately, it didn’t. , fortunately, it was not a turning point of the game.
Eventually, I think, we’ll all just kind of, you know, remember it as it happened, it was stupid, , he did apologize, but, you know, we were able to move past it.
John Cashman: Um, I will say this, I do think, uh, we see enough about, ref did this, ref did that, it’s always on something, this is actually a very, very well officiated game.
I
Tim Cashman: agree.
John Cashman: , and they let him play, but it wasn’t, it wasn’t crazy out of control, , especially for two teams that were really going at it. , so. Anyway, let’s get on to our keys to victory, , that we had last week, because I think the Niners did a pretty good job. , number one was contain hurts. Right, I think they did this
Brian Caynan: pretty well.
Yeah, as I said earlier, the defense tried to keep him in the pocket. So yeah, and I think, , it seemed like he did have a ton of time to throw. , and so I’m sure you guys saw that, but our, our safeties and our corners, they definitely did a good job. So Gibson and, and, , so containing hurts. He didn’t, he didn’t seem to have the big play.
Although there were a couple that he got to, I mean, A. J. Brown did break 100, uh, Devante Smith had a couple good, good, uh, receptions, but, yeah, I, , I remember two sacks from Kinlob, one he, I think one Hertz just kind of fell down, , and tripped. But, uh, yeah, I think overall they did a really great job of keeping him in the pocket and, and, you know, uh, our coverage team kind of did a really good job watching everything from the, , from the corner.
Tim Cashman: Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, and I think, you know, when you, when you watch this, , how many times did we see Hertz go back? He had a lot of time to throw and he just was looking around. He’s going through his progressions. He just did not, or he was pushed out and had to throw the ball away. So I think, yeah, absolute, uh, fantastic job by the 49ers, , secondary and linebackers.
Looking at how they were lining up, the, basically the 49ers were not going to let Hertz get the big, , running game. They wanted to contain him. They knew he was going to move the football. , they knew that he was going to make, uh, you know, that, uh, the two wide receivers could make plays. And they did, they both had big days.
But, , Jalen Hurts on multiple occasions, uh, could not find, , could not find a receiver to throw to, and he never got into a rhythm that we’ve seen him where he’s burned other teams. Yeah, ,
John Cashman: and Tim, the key, other key to victory was, was stopping the tush push. Yeah. And, , it was interesting because I was listening to the, um, the Kelsey Brothers podcast today.
While I was working out, and,, I thought it was interesting, cause, you know, at some point they’re like, look, do what you want to do, change the rules, etc. But my feeling is that, I don’t think they need to ban it, because they’re just really good at it, but I thought what the Niners did, a very good job of, was not letting them get into a situation where they could
Tim Cashman: use it.
No, that’s right. Yeah. That’s definitely right. Yeah, and John, I can point to, I mean, we saw it, uh, on the Eagles, , touchdown, uh, first touchdown in the, I think the first touchdown of the game, , for them, uh, in the second half, , on that, uh, drive where Greenlaw was thrown out. , they ran it for two yards, getting out of the one, and they just basically, you know, ran it right, right into the next play to score.
But you go into, , the late third quarter, uh, this was after, , Divo Samuel had scored. , it was Uh, at this point, 28, uh, I think 28, uh, 13 at that point. , the Eagles, they got 3rd and 8 on their own 27. , Hurts scrambled for 5 yards. They had a 4th and, you’d call it 3, 2 and a half at the 32. And I was anticipating them to do that right there.
And I was really surprised that Sirianni did not go for it. , there’s some speculation that he was concerned about Hertz’s health right now. He did have to leave the game. He had to go through the concussion protocol. , but when he chose not to do it there, I know it’s on your 32. I know it’s a little longer than a yard.
, but to me, that was going to your point, John, is that the 49ers weren’t giving them those optimal situations to, to do the, , to do that play, to do, to do the, uh, the burley push.
John Cashman: Yeah, um, the other thing, Brian, that they did a very good job of, there were no turnovers in this game.
Brian Caynan: Yeah. Yeah, no one had a, no one had a pick, no one had a fumble, , or that was lost.
Yeah, I mean, I think it, the Niners just played an overall clean game. The Eagles did too, although they just didn’t move the ball. Mm hmm. , I think they just, they both played great. I think there’s just the Niners defense just played a whole lot stronger. Um, but yeah, no, no turnovers. , no changes on the plus minus, but I mean, that was good for us.
, it was good that the Eagles couldn’t stop, you know, our offense, but, uh, yeah, nothing there.
John Cashman: And Tim, let’s talk about both offensive lines. Eagle’s offensive line, I thought, played pretty well.
Tim Cashman: I think they’re an outstanding offensive line.
John Cashman: Right, , but the Niners offensive line wasn’t exactly, you know, a bag of scrubs.
I mean, I thought they actually
Tim Cashman: played pretty well as well. You score six straight touchdowns. I think you’re doing something right on your offensive line there. So, , yeah, no, the offensive line, I think, Purdy was, , sacked, I think, twice, but for a total. Four yards. So, , you know, I, I, that’s not, you know, anything that was a, , constant killer.
Uh, he did face pressure, but he has the ability to extend those plays, , to roll out in one case. Um, you know, in on the NI’s first touchdown, uh, drive, I think when he broke a tackle than took a hit out of bounds. And I was like, well, I’d, I’d rather he not do that because we don’t need a repeat of him getting or any injuries in that.
But, uh, yeah, John, the, the offensive line I thought played very well. I mean, like I said, , six touchdowns, but you know, , McCaffrey constantly had great running lanes to go through and Niners put up. 146 yards, , on the ground, you know, passing 310. So you put up 456 yards against the Eagles in their home stadium after, , what we saw in the FC Championship game.
Yeah, I’d say the 49ers offensive line did pretty well.
John Cashman: And I would say left side, strong
Tim Cashman: side. Well, I think the key to it was Tremblay’s death. I mean, of course, yeah. That was the key to the game.
Brian Caynan: You know, and Colton McKivitt didn’t give much of anything to Hasan Reddick. So, you know, I know he was the one who was responsible for the UCL injury, but Yeah, you didn’t hear much from Hasan Reddick.
Maybe, you know, his name every now and then, but you didn’t hear Colton’s name. I think he had a sack. I think he had a sack. But you didn’t hear Colton McGibbon’s name getting lit up, you know,
John Cashman: as being, yeah. Colton has been solid. Yeah. Well, let’s get on to stars of the game. Not just solid, but star.
I think the first star has to go to Debo. I mean, three touchdowns. Talked smack all week. And then just shows up and shows out. I mean, what a game. He just like, like classic Debo. And there’s only so much you can say about it. Uh, in terms of just what he was able to do during that game. So yeah. Big star first star goes to Debo. Really carried the load.
Great to have him back looking forward to see, uh, what else he can do though. Weeks ahead.
Brian, do you have a star of the game?
Brian Caynan: You know, I’m gonna go for the inobvious first because I know who you guys are gonna pick. So I’m gonna go with the defense number one and I’m gonna talk about the, the first two Philly drives because they held them to those two field goals. Yeah. If they, if they gave up two touchdowns, just like what Tim was saying, we’re going to be talking about a different ball game and the Niners will be playing catch up the whole entire game.
And it just took one touchdown drive. To get the lead back, which was pretty, pretty quick. So, , you know, I guess as a, as a fan watching that game, you thought, , if you were telling about the time of possession, Tim, you were saying, what was it like, uh, 13 to two in that first quarter, you would have thought, yeah.
Yeah. You would have thought the Niners would be down big, but I’m going to give it up to the defense. , although they only had two or three sacks, , Overall, they played a much tighter game. , they, you know, talking about the corners, the safeties, I think they were what I have here. Four pass deflections for, , Ambry Thomas.
No, three for Ambry Thomas and then four for Cheverius Ward. I just think they were everywhere. So my whole, my start of the game is going to be the defense because they kept, they kept everything in front of them. , they didn’t seem to be kind of, uh, out of position and they just always seem to be there making all the right plays.
So that’s my start of the game.
John Cashman: Yeah. 46 rushing yards. Hertz had 20 of them. , he was sacked three times, but the, yeah, the great coverage by the DVs, how many times does Hertz look in downfield and saw nothing? Yeah. Yeah. , Tim.
Tim Cashman: Well, well, you gotta go with Brock. , I mean, a year ago, who is this guy? A year later, MVP candidate.
Four touchdowns. , you know, what, what do you have in terms of throwing in terms of how many yards? I’ll check this right here. Uh, over the, yeah, 310 yards of, of passing. , 314 to be, to be exact. Um, four touchdowns. I mean, wow. Just wow. , constantly, I mean, he just John, as you have said, we’ve watched 49er quarterbacks for so many years, and we’ve watched some that we hope would become stars.
And as you said, and I won’t name the quarterback’s name, but as you said, he didn’t have it. Well, Brock Purdy has it. Yeah, he
John Cashman: does. , my star of the game is going to be CMC. He just continues to be the Energizer Bunny. I think I sent you guys a video of him doing workouts during the summer and I’m like, dear God, like, I mean, he just, he is, he’s 120 yards of offense.
, he just keeps going and going and going and he’s, you know. The biggest thing about CMC is that, in Carolina, they weren’t really using him as this kind of power back, that the Niners are using him a little bit now, but then all of a sudden you see him on a wheel route, catch the ball like it’s nothing, and all of a sudden he just hampers along.
The other thing that CMC had, , he picked up a lot of blitzes. Uh, And I mean, he’s just, he’s just out there being the team guy. I still can’t believe we have him on our team. It’s been just about a year.
Tim Cashman: It’s like, I, I, you know, that wheel run, I think that was on a third and two. , you know, and, um, the play before I, we, I, we got to give an A for effort on this one where Fletcher Cox had him wrapped up, he sort of.
CMC does his best. This is why he’s a football player and he’s not a Hollywood actor. Kind of throws himself around in obvious, I don’t know if he was trying to scream in obvious pain, but the referee is just laughing at him. Like, no. I’m not biting on that one. Gotta give CMC F A for effort on his acting regimen on that particular play.
Yeah,
John Cashman: , the other thing I want to thank the Carolina Panthers for, , not only did we get CMC, but we also got Steve Wilkes. Yeah. So, you keep being
Tim Cashman: dysfunctional there in Carolina. Oh, come on, that’s gonna bite you. Don’t mess with karma, John.
John Cashman: , Tim, this is Commanders 2. 0.
Tim Cashman: I just, I’m not going there. I’m not going.
You said you switch TVs, you switch TVs because of bad mojo. I’m not saying anything bad, you know, about Carolina because 20 years from now, when AI is taken over the world, they’re going to be like the world beaters. And I’ll have you to blame. Sure. ,
John Cashman: so few honorable mentions, Tim, you had one because it’s the Grant Cone special.
Yeah,
Tim Cashman: uh, Jevon Kinlaw, , I’ve been rooting for this guy for, you know, all year, uh, he has battled through, uh, some, you know, horrible injuries, and, you know, even though he’s not gonna become the player that we drafted him to be, he was not gonna, , you know, replace, uh, DeForest Buckner, um, he has turned in what I think is a solid season, , and in this game, , he had, well, last year in the NFC Championship game, he was thoroughly pushed around, uh, in, in the middle.
Uh, he had a terrible game. Comes back this game, he has two sacks, two tackles, two assists, and two tackles for losses. So, great job, Jevon Kinlaw. , if you’re listening, shout out, keep up the great work. I’m thrilled to see this guy, , have such a great comeback here. Yeah, that
John Cashman: was awesome. My honorable mention actually goes to George Kittle.
, this was actually a late edition, , because I just re watched the highlights, and , well, George Kittle’s stat line wasn’t, wasn’t, I mean, he had some, he had an amazing catch and run, don’t get me wrong, but really what the honorable mention goes to is on Devo’s first and around, , he blocks one guy and then proceeds to go and block the other.
So he actually had two guys blocked on that play. And then on Debo’s next touchdown, he blocked a guy the entire way down the field. , such a spirit of the team and, , the mentality of that the Niners are going with and they’re getting him involved more, which is great.
But yeah, honorable mention to George just for the blocking and springing Debo loose. So, Brian, any honorable mentions for
Brian Caynan: you? Yeah, you put this on the list here, but Juwan Jennings, so I, this is what I wanted to say. So, he always seems to come up with one play of the game that we’re always going to talk about.
So, it was the week before, was that long third and seven. And this week was his touchdown where he had that, um, awesome stiff arm on, , was it Eli Ricks, uh, pushing him down to the ground and just coasting in for that touchdown. So, , and that’s basically First one of the year. Yeah. Oh, is that the first one of the year?
That’s awesome. And, , you know, it, he’s one of those receivers who he’s not, he’s not, he’s not the main focal point. He’s not Debo. Uh, he’s not CMC. He’s not George Kittle, but he seems like he always blocks well. , he’s always in the right place at the right time. He always runs his routes really hard. , so, you know, he’s my honorable mention.
So if you’re listening, uh, Juwan Jennings from Tennessee. Great job. , Love, love the work that you’re doing.
John Cashman: Well, I don’t think Jawan’s in Poland, but, but we’ll see. So, uh, it’s now one of our favorite listeners, , Hi, I’m Zasol, sunshine and lollipops. It’s Sci Time.
Tim Cashman: I feel like we need to have, like, theme music when you say it’s not all sunshine and lollipops.
Again, I don’t, I
John Cashman: don’t know how to do that. I don’t know how to add it. Maybe next year. Maybe next year we can add, we can add music. Can
Tim Cashman: you increase our budget for that? You mean my budget?
John Cashman: Yes. , Places we can improve. , Tim, where can we improve a bit?
Tim Cashman: Well, I mean, if you had said the Niners were going to get off to a slow, uh, slow start, uh, offensively in Philly, I, I would have said it would have been very difficult.
You know, fortunately, as, as we have pointed out, as Brian has pointed out, , the defense held, they, they bent, they did not break, , and the offense got rolling in the, in the second quarter. So, you know, that’s, that was an area I think we needed to start fast. We didn’t do it, but, , that’s not something you want to do consistently against a quality team like Philadelphia.
And as you said, John, they’re a damn good football team.
John Cashman: Brian, any places you think we can improve? You know,
Brian Caynan: , I’m trying to think of things on the defense, but you know, the rushing game we did held them down to what, 46 yards? So that was great. But, , in terms of the receivers, , you know, there’s always seems to be a receiver too that always breaks a hundred against us.
So if it’s, you know, if it’s Metcalf . And this year, I mean, this game, you know, I know we had They have two great receivers in, , Devontae and, , Najee Brown. So, um, you know, I guess if, if there was anything, um, you know, teams know when to, I guess, break, if we’re playing zone, if we’re playing a man, , you know, there’s just seems to be sometimes some soft moments kind of in the middle, like when, when people are doing receivers or, or, , players are doing crossing routes, there’s just something always seems to be opening up every now and then.
And, you know. I don’t have anything kind of on film to necessarily say, but I just think maybe we could probably just do a better job of just, just keeping the, you know, the plays in front of us and just making sure they make the tackles and, and trying not to get those receivers to, to break us. So, I mean, although I didn’t have any, any touchdowns, so that was the nitpick.
John Cashman: I think the biggest thing I’ve seen so far on defense is, is this the missed tackles and. Jair Brown had two big ones, uh, early in the game. , you know, it’s, you just, you know, a guy like AJ Brown, you just have to just try and get your, your body attached to him somehow, and hopefully the cavalry will come, , but that, that was about it.
, I think if the Niners clean up the missed tackles, they’re going to be pretty formidable. So, um,
Brian Caynan: One thing on that comment, John, talk about missed tackles. It seemed like every touchdown that Debo had. There were players right in front of him.
John Cashman: He’s on our team. I’m
Tim Cashman: glad.
John Cashman: that brings us to one of my favorite parts of the show. Schneider’s Trivia Time with Brian.
Brian Caynan: Okay, so since we Just had Seattle Trivia. Oh, I’ll just kind of, you know, some, some questions here. I made a little fun. Hey, uh,
John Cashman: Ryan. Yeah, Ryan, real quick. And I just want to know what you’re going up against.
When my brother was here recently, we had a trivia box of San Francisco sports trivia. Oh gosh. Uh huh. And my brother, I said, I don’t know if my brother could do 20 in a row. And Vivi’s like, I’ll ask the questions. Vivi’s my daughter. He did 20 in a row. I did 21. 21. And he almost got tripped up on one, but, but I ended up getting it.
So I’m just saying you have a tall mountain to climb.
Tim Cashman: Well, those questions I knew very well. Brian throws, Brian, I got to reach into the dark depths of my brain for some of these answers. So, um, but yeah, that, that was, um, that was both, uh, impressive by me and also frightening that I knew that much and, uh, frankly, so little about everything else in life.
I’m
Brian Caynan: curious, what was the last question that tripped you up or you
Tim Cashman: didn’t get? It was, the question was, I don’t remember the exact question, but the answer was Jeff Garcia. And it was something like
John Cashman: Oh, the question was like, name a Niners quarterback who then played for the Browns,
Tim Cashman: Eagles, Raiders and I think the Saints.
Yeah, he was with the Saints. Oh, I think I don’t it was something like that and I had to rack my brain rack my brain and I and I had to sit there for like five minutes. And I think everybody was like waiting, and then all of a sudden, I almost jumped, I think I jumped out of my chair and I screamed, Jeff Garcia!
So, anyway, , it was over Thanksgiving holidays, so it was with family, it was, it was, it was fun, but I was, I was, I was, I was kind of proud of myself.
Brian Caynan: Ooh, that sounds like a good gift, that’s something I’ll have to tell, tell Jen about. Okay, alright. Alright. Uh, question number one, um, in 2023, CMC breaks 1, 000, 2014 was the last time before our, uh, Our beloved running back, Frank Gore broken in 1000, broke 1000 in 2014, who are the one and two running backs between 15 and 22, who were close to a thousand but didn’t break it, number one.
And number two, I wanna say
John Cashman: Carlos Hyde.
Tim Cashman: And I’ll say Raheem Mostert.
Brian Caynan: Carlos Hyde and Raheem Mostert. All right. Number two. Um, Beloved Seattle Seahawks running back. Marshawn Lynch.
Tim Cashman: Beloved, it is a, Beloved is a subjective term on this podcast.
John Cashman: Yeah. Beloved in Seattle. , he’s
Brian Caynan: beloved in Oakland though. So what high school, what high school did he go to? What college did he go to?
And what’s his favorite snack? Well,
John Cashman: I can answer the second and the third one. He went to Cal, and his favorite snack is Skittles. I wanna say he went to Skyline High School.
Tim Cashman: I was gonna say Skyline.
Brian Caynan: Skittles, Berkeley, and Skyline High, alright. Number three, what did Steve Largent, where did Steve Largent go to college, the famous Seattle wide receiver, and what was his main job post the NFL?
John Cashman: I’ll do the post NFL Tim, you can do the college. Okay. Oh, post NFL, he went to the House of
Tim Cashman: Representatives.
College, you know, I was going to say because I believe he’s a rep from Oklahoma, so I will say something like Oklahoma State. Alright,
Brian Caynan: so Oklahoma State and Representative, alright. And then, number four, , I thought this was a fun question. This is more like a, um, a question and answer and see if you guys can get it like I did last week for, , for, quarterbacks in their colleges.
So, but these are based on TV shows set in Seattle, okay? So, number one, Psychiatrist on the radio. Razor. Number two, reality of, reality show of 20 somethings. Real world. Real world. Number three, a hospital drama.
Tim Cashman: ER or Anatomy?
John Cashman: Well, ER was in Chicago,
Tim Cashman: so It wasn’t ER. Grey’s
John Cashman: Anatomy.
Brian Caynan: Number four, a Nickelodeon show about teens hosting a web show.
Tim Cashman: that was way past the time I stopped watching Nickelodeon, so I don’t
John Cashman: I’m going with Paw Patrol.
Tim Cashman: I don’t have a clue. Alright. I don’t know. Whatever that I’ll say, you know what, I’ll go Oh, really? I’m gonna go really old school. I know it’s not the right answer, but I just want to say it. I’ll say double dare.
Double dare. Okay.
John Cashman: Slime time. Oh, man. Good
Brian Caynan: stuff. All right. , all right. We’ll do the answers in a bit. Well,
John Cashman: we’re continuing our bird theme. , first was the Seahawks, then it was the Eagles, and now we’re onto the Seahawks again. So, uh, obviously it’s not like it was on Thanksgiving. Naturally televised game, big holiday, etc.
But it is still the Seahawks. And, , Seahawks last week played the Cowboys. They’ve had an extra three days. , they played well, uh, the offense was rolling, , and came very close to knocking off the Cowboys. , and in a game I weirdly didn’t really know who I wanted to win. So, , Tim, you are a resident Seattle hater.
Thoughts on, , this week’s
Tim Cashman: game? Yeah, I think the first thing that comes to mind is an emotional letdown and, you know, John, you, you and I have talked, , we always go back to the Saints game in 2019. Niners have an enormous victory, , on the road. They came back to Levi’s and they lost to a Falcons team that , didn’t make the playoffs, didn’t even have a winning record.
So, that, I think, is the, you know, the first task of the 49ers, uh, this week. , as you said, Seattle gets an extra three days. Yes, they are at 500 right now. They’ve lost four in a row. , the defense has given up, I think, 78 points in the last two games. So, they’re reeling, but this is a well run organization.
This is a proud organization. And you never, ever, uh, get complacent on Pete Carroll. So the 49ers, they gotta, you know, they gotta go in and take care of business. I I’m personally envisioning this to be kind of a. , more of an ugly, sloppy game, uh, I think it has the potential for that, you know, certainly the one that the 49ers, , need to win to stay within striking distance of the number one, uh, seed, but 49ers are also playing for, , to clinch a playoff spot, which they can do with, , a victory this Sunday, , in addition to, I think either a Green Bay loss or a Minnesota loss, they’ll, they’ll clinch a playoff spot.
So there’s a lot to keep the 49ers motivated here.
John Cashman: , question for you. What was the last time Seattle won at Levi’s? Was it?
Tim Cashman: Oh, that’s, that’s easy. That would have been, that’s easy. Um, I want to remember, but that was 2021. ,
John Cashman: that’s right., Brian, any thoughts on the game? Any keys you feel that they need to do for.
Brian Caynan: And I’m trying to think back to what we talked about just a week and a half ago, right, for two weeks ago, but I remember, , because that game was in Seattle, so we were obviously trying to work on the crowd noise and the offensive line was kind of sketchy with, , with Burford mind of being potentially not playing.
, I think this Armstead, right? So, yeah, it’s looking unlikely. That’s something to contend with to make sure we have somebody on the interior line who’s going to step up. , you know, the receivers are always kind of a big threat. , lock it and, , Metcalf and, uh, you know, uh, their running backs Walker and, , who’s that new guy?
Charbonnet? Um, Charbonnet. Yeah, Charbonnet, who’s done, who’s done pretty well. , so, you know, even though Kenny Walker’s not, not out, I mean, he might not be playing, you know, Charbonnet, he’s, he’s, uh, he’s no slouch either. So I think, you know, as Tim was saying, I think we just have to make sure we don’t let this game be a letdown and, and, you know, they have some proven players and we just need to make sure we, uh, you know, stop them.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, I’ll just, you know, with those two receivers, I mean, we saw, , you know, both, uh, the Eagles receivers have, uh, uh, decent games against, uh, the 49ers, , they’re putting up some good numbers, um, in the meeting, , this early year at the Niners were really, Charteris Ward had probably, is, I think, one of his best games, if not the best game, uh, of the year, uh, covering, uh, Metcalf, but, You know, he was, Ward was able to do that in two games and against the Seahawks last year.
Uh, but then Metcalf went off in the wildcard game, the obviously the one that Niners, uh, were able to win. But, you know, that just goes to, to Brian’s point, they have proven players. Um, and, you know, I, I, I, like I said, you, you can’t get complacent against this team. , Lockett and Metcalf are two very physical, uh, very, very good receivers, , that can, uh, Break a game wide open with a deep pass, drawing a pass interference penalty.
So, uh, but we also need to get John’s thoughts here.
John Cashman: Yeah. I think, , the biggest thing is the Eagles play the Cowboys, uh, Sunday night, and that is a huge game, uh, for basically will help decide the NFC East. , the Cowboys have not beaten anybody with a winning record. So obviously they want to say, hey, we are the ones, you know, who are the best team, and nobody’s taking us seriously, and we’re, you know, et cetera, so they want to beat the Eagles.
, obviously the Eagles want to right the ship and keep one game ahead of the Niners. For four of the Niners To keep putting pressure on the Eagles, you have to win. So I think their motivation will still be there to get that one seed because they know that what an advantage it is. , The Niners have a lot more talent and are clicking much better than Seattle is right now.
, I thought Pete Carroll coming out and blaming the refs for throwing too many flags was kinda Asinine, it was just like sour grapes kind of stuff. Because like, dude, your, your team was playing super sloppy. Like that’s on you. Not on the refs. Like they’re just calling it as they see it. , they might call it tight.
They might call it loose, but if they’re calling it tight, you, your athletes should be able to adjust. So I think the Niners should be able to take care of business, but it’s Seattle. , and you look at this week on Monday night football is the Jags versus the Bengals, the Bengals have some no name quarterback from U Dub against Trevor Lawrence.
Yeah. What happens. Trevor Lawrence goes out of the game. The no name quarterback has a great game and, you know, they ended up winning in overtime, so. Any, any
Tim Cashman: given Sunday.
John Cashman: Any given Sunday. So I think, I think, , the Niners will have the motivation. I don’t think they’re going to have a letdown game. I think they need to keep doing what they’ve been doing.
Let Purdy cook. , Keep that left side rolling, uh, along. Don’t let the Seattle Seahawks breathe and just take care of business. Um, they are at home. , they’ve done very well at home except for that one game against the Bengals, so I think I’m feeling pretty good about this game, but, you know, until you start playing, you never know, so,
Tim Cashman: any other thoughts?
I think the only thing I was going to ask, and I’m looking it up right now, I’m just curious to see what the line is on the game right now, and the 49ers are favored by 10 and a half.
John Cashman: Yeah, yeah, Seattle’s reeling right now, I mean, and they know that the Rams are pretty much right on their ass to try and get that last playoff spot.
So same with the Packers, , both teams, the Packers and the Rams are playing really good football down the stretch. , and the Seahawks look like they’re fading a bit. So, but again, we’ll see. I mean, you got to play the game right now. Everybody’s ready to crown a Superbowl champions. I’m like, we still got a ways
Tim Cashman: to go.
Yes, we do. We, we, we, we were feeling pretty good after we beat Dallas. And then we went to Cleveland. Yeah. You
Brian Caynan: know, it’s funny. Like we, we talked about like, you know, after that five game winning streak in the beginning of the year. And I’m like, Oh, are they picking too soon? And then they lost three in a row and now they’ve won four in a row.
Are they picking too soon again?
Tim Cashman: You know, well, you know, the three of us learned our lesson. Didn’t we?
John Cashman: Yeah. Yeah. Well, we’re in December and Kyle Shanahan’s teams play well in December. So I think we’re going to be okay. But again. You got to put points on the board, let Purdy keep doing what he’s doing, and, and, you know, lean on your stars, and hopefully there’s no injuries, and, and we just go in and take care of business, uh, and then let, let the Seahawks, not the Seahawks, the Eagles and Cowboys decide, you know, who’s going to be the number one, uh, in the
Brian Caynan: NFC East, so.
You know, really quick to wrap up on the Eagles piece, uh, you know, they’re playing Dallas, as you said, John, on Sunday night, but then after that, they’re playing Seattle again. So I mean, they’re playing Seattle right after that. Yeah. And then, and then they supposedly have a kick schedule of New York, Arizona, and then New York.
Yeah. So, you know, you’re right. The Niners are going to want to stay focused, , because they may not get much help from those other teams kind of at the
Tim Cashman: end. So you’re saying I have to cheer for the Cowboys and the Seahawks after this is, I can’t do this. We need to go to final thoughts. We need to wrap this up.
I don’t like this. Well,
John Cashman: before we get to final thoughts, let’s have Brian tell us how we did it in Niners trivia.
Brian Caynan: Okay, so number one, , 2023 CMC breaks the thousand. Last time it was Frank Gore who broke it in 2014. , who had the most? , yards between 15 and 22. One and two. So John, you said Carlos side?
He did, in 2016, he had 988 yards. And then Tim, you say it was Elijah Mitchell in 21, he had 963.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, almost that makes, yeah. Almost all right. I was
Brian Caynan: surprised by that too. I actually thought it was most right when I was looking that up. No,
Tim Cashman: that just ’cause he would really, I mean, Shanahan was running him off extensively in 21.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I missed that one.
Brian Caynan: Number two, name the high school, the college, and the favorite snack of Oakland legend and Seattle favorite, Marshawn Lynch. So I
John Cashman: said Skyline, Cal, and Skittles.
Brian Caynan: Cal and Skittles are right. Oh. Yeah. High
Tim Cashman: school was Oakland Tech.
Brian Caynan: Number three, great wide receiver, Steve Largen of Seattle.
Which college did he go to? What was his main job post the NFL? Uh, John, you was, you said his job was House of Representatives, correct? He was a Congressman in Oklahoma. Uh, he was a GOP Congressman there. And so Tim close, you said. Oklahoma State. University of Tulsa was the answer
Tim Cashman: there. All right. Well, I got the state right.
Yeah, there you
Brian Caynan: go. All right. Last for the last, , the fourth question was like just kind of a fun one about show set in Seattle. , psychiatrist on the radio. Reality TV show of 20 somethings. Uh, hospital drama. And then the last one, the Nickelodeon show of teens hosting a web show.
Tim Cashman: Very close. No, no,
Brian Caynan: and no.
Uh, iCarly. I don’t know if you remember that show. It
Tim Cashman: was probably about 10 years
John Cashman: ago. On another note, I brought this up to my brother because I was, we were talking about our stats and how How we’re huge in Poland. , the movie Singles where the band was like, but we are big in Belgium.
Tim Cashman: Oh man, I remember that movie Singles.
Oh, great movie. I was
Brian Caynan: gonna ask, name the rapper from Seattle who, , name two rappers from, there’s one more who’s another big one in the 80s, 90s.
Tim Cashman: Kurt Cobain. He’s not a rapper. He’s a screamer. I know, John, I’m joking.
Brian Caynan: He, he likes big butts.
John Cashman: Oh, really? So, makes a lot? Yeah, he’s from Seattle.
Tim Cashman: There you go.
There
John Cashman: you go.
Brian Caynan: Final
John Cashman: thoughts, Brian. Think we’re gonna see the Eagles
Brian Caynan: again? Oh, yeah, I do. I do. , I have a lot of co workers who are from the Delaware Philadelphia area, so they’ve been in my ear about, um, you know, how much that game was an aberration. And we will meet again. So, I guess it remains to be seen from my perspective if it’s going to be in Santa Clara or if it’s going to be in Philadelphia.
So, yeah.
Tim Cashman: Tim? Very likely, , you know, we’re now in the homestretch, um, you know, the Niners, , these are the games, you know, we got Seattle, uh, these are the games you have to win. You can’t lose your position, uh, this time, but, but, , yeah, I think very likely we see the Eagles again in the playoffs. So,
John Cashman: ironically, so, when we did the Cowboys podcast, and we were saying, do you think the Cowboys are going to make the playoffs, I said, no, and I said, no, no, no, no.
So take all of this with a grain of salt.
Tim Cashman: Alright. I
John Cashman: do not think we will see the Eagles again. I think the Niners really exposed how to attack the Eagles defense in the middle, and I don’t think the Eagles can fix it. I know they just signed Shaq Barrett, but that is really hard to fix. Uh, so you’ll see, again, the Cowboys game coming up this weekend, you’re gonna see a lot of CD LAM going across the middle like Devo.
I, this is my prediction, again, take it with a grain of salt because I said they were gonna do that. I think we’ll see the Cowboys in the playoffs before they see the
Tim Cashman: Eagles. Well, here’s, here’s where I’ll, I’ll disagree with you, John. I think there’s, there’s two things there. One, there’s still Jalen Hurts, who is just the guy can do things that just about any other quarterback in the NFL, including Portie Connaught.
Uh, he just has that athletic, uh, ability, uh, to make, uh, amazing plays. The Eagles have also been very clutch in these close games and to your point, yes, the 49ers exposed the Eagles, , last week, but no team in the NFL has the weapons that the 49ers have. And that I think includes the Cowboys. So I will respectfully disagree and I will say, I think it’s very likely we see the Eagles again.
Well, that’s why we
John Cashman: watch the games. Yeah. All right. Well, Niners Nation, we apologize for being a day late.
Tim Cashman: It was United Airlines fault.
John Cashman: , We are a dollar short. However, , really thank you all for listening to us, , each week. , We’ll be back on Tuesday of next week to distribute on Wednesdays. And between now and then, keep the faith.
Talk to y’all later.