John Cashman: What is up Niners Nation? Do you know what I’m thankful for, Tim?
Tim Cashman: Uh, spending time with your family and friends.
John Cashman: Victory Tuesday! Let’s go! Priorities. Absolute priorities in life.
Tim Cashman: I, I, my second choice was going to be seeing me in person, but, you know, priorities. I understand. I’m like, what, third down on the list?
John Cashman: Have you ever watched football with yourself?
Tim Cashman: We’ll get to that later. I watch, I watch football by myself all the time. It’s not pretty. Yeah,
John Cashman: Brian. How are you? And how was your Thanksgiving? Which ended in a Niners victory over the Seahawks. Thanksgiving was not ruined.
Brian Caynan: It was awesome. Thanksgiving was awesome. It was great food as usual. , I got to watch the game in the presence of my, uh, my family. , my mom, my, my brother and his family, and then my wife and my kids. So, um, uh, obviously, , you know, trying to balance out what’s on the TV versus trying to have a conversation.
My mom’s a huge Niner fan, so she’s actually okay with having it on while we’re eating. So it wasn’t, you know, it didn’t make it complex, complicated, but yeah, but it was fun, great time, great game. , it was just an awesome day.
Tim Cashman: And Tim. We, when the schedule came out back in, in early May, and I, we all looked at this game, and we circled it, not for, for good reasons.
One, it’s the 49ers playing on Thanksgiving, on Thanksgiving night. Against Seattle in Seattle. And John, as I, you, you and I discussed the day after this could have gone bad in so many different ways, but like you said, John, this was a game that we were very thankful to win it made for a much better family visit and weekend.
We got to enjoy ourselves for the remainder of the holiday and. I got to give a shout out to both our wives because I think they were a little concerned about how things were going to go. So, , I’m grateful to, to Terry and Abby, uh, for, for putting up with us. And yeah, I think even John, I’m, I’m, I have to say when Terry saw the schedule, I think our, of course, response was, are you kidding me?
John Cashman: That was actually my 10 year old daughter, but yeah, it’s
Tim Cashman: same thing. Yeah, but you know, it, you know, I know we’re going to discuss the game, but you know, Niners now sitting at eight and three, , getting, you know, a victory over a very tough environment to win. , in Seattle, a 31 13 victory and now it is on to, you know, we, we had circled this game, uh, speaking of looking at the schedule, we had circled this game, , from May.
We knew this was going to be, , one of the milestones, , in terms of the season for Niners going up against the 10 1, number one seed defending NFC champions. Philadelphia Eagles and a rematch of last year’s, well, let’s say this year, but last season’s NFC Championship, which we remember, we all remember for not so good reasons.
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So, I’m gonna start with overall thoughts of the game, because I’m gonna relate two stories, =, because it’s not very often that my brother and I get together to watch football, and my brother, when he watches it, is very stoic. So, when the Niners had a rather dominant first half, I went upstairs just to say goodnight to my wife and my, uh, daughters.
And my wife’s like, well, how’s it going down there? I’m like, well, the Niners have to score half. 231 yards of offense and Seattle had the audacity to get 31
Tim Cashman: yards.
John Cashman: , Second,
Tim Cashman: the
John Cashman: next day, my brother and I sat on the couch and rewatched the game on NFL game pass and broke down the film and absolutely enjoyed every
Tim Cashman: second.
I’d also point out we might have been drinking a glass of wine, maybe some cocktails.
John Cashman: I’m sure that’s what Kyle Shanahan does.
Tim Cashman: And yeah, I’m sure, I’m sure we’re following the Shanahan script in that one. So, but as our wives said, are you guys really geeking out over and rewatching certain plays and pointing out where the guys are in terms of motion, in terms of position and what Brock’s progressions were and where Fred Warner was lining up and you’re playing five deep, you’re playing Tampa too, or you’re playing five down linemen.
And we just paused and went, yeah.
Brian Caynan: Oh wait, one of your wives actually brought up the term
Tim Cashman: Tampa too? No, I, I, that was, that was a joke, but if we had, if they had, I would have been like, you guys have been paying a lot more attention over the last 13 years than I have ever given you credit for, so, , but, uh, yes.
Yeah, so
John Cashman: overall, I was really, it was a great game, , other than the third quarter, which seemed to last, about 402 years. , it was, I was quite impressed how the Niners rolled into, , Seattle. Uh, Brian?
Brian Caynan: Yeah, it was, it was a great game to watch. It was, uh, I don’t think I watched it as, uh, as religiously as you guys did, , on the next day, but I did watch the, the first half on replay.
, but it was, it was great. It was. made for such an easy day. And as, as we’ve always talked about, you know, Thursday night wins are always the best because they last like 10 days until your next, until your next game. So obviously I didn’t want to go into Thanksgiving break, you know, with this kind of, , misery hanging over us, but, uh, yeah, it was great.
It was a great game. And, , I just absolutely loved all of it. Um, I had to leave my mom’s house because my kids were getting all anxious, , in the fourth quarter. So I miss that touchdown. , so we went back to the hotel, I turned it on, uh, we checked in, and… I just saw the Niners eating turkey. And so, you know, which was absolutely fitting because it’s just payback from 2014.
Absolutely
Tim Cashman: love that. Hey, can I just, can we also give a quick shout out to Chris Grothkopf for last week, for joining us and sharing his thoughts on being a Seattle fan. Uh, I know he was at the game. , I don’t know if we ever got a answer to the question of whether they serve Thanksgiving dinner at the stadium.
, but I hope he and his family had a wonderful, , Thanksgiving. Appreciate him coming on and, uh, If, if it’s any sort of a silver lining, he is a big Washington, , University of Washington Huskies fan and they were able to, , get in the Apple Cup and in the college football playoff. F, uh, as we look at the standings today.
So, shout out to Chris for coming on. Appreciate it. Hey, it’s gotta be Oregon. That’s gonna be a tough one. All right, so, Tim. Yes? How are you feeling? Um, well, I, I think, you know, it’s, it’s, obviously, you know, I’ve said it was a great win. You’re going into a tough environment. And, you know, John, I always try to look at the first drive as to, hence, how Shanahan is going to call the game.
And, you know, the first three plays were passes. And we had seen in previous weeks, , particularly when the Niners were struggling, , that it was the CMC show, you know, that you and I, we thought things were getting, , predictable, predictable there, but that first drive, and we forgot to go to the keys of the game here, was get the crowd out of the game, start fast, and the 49ers did just that, , they go all the way down the field, for a touchdown, uh, to open the game, and, , yeah, that was, that was exactly the, uh, the start they needed, and even though Seattle came back with a great kick return, the 49er defense, I think, set the tone on that opening drive.
I think the Seattle had, Minus one yard on that entire three series, but you got the sense that the 49ers from those opening drives when you look at the game again, not when you’re in an emotional, fragile state watching the game, , that, , the 49ers, uh, definitely had a lot more talent, , on both sides of the ball.
So starting fast, uh, you, you put Seattle on notice, you put their offense on notice that it’s going to be a. a tough climb against this front four against those linebackers and you know, yeah, it was, , you know, I mean, hey, at the end of the first half, it was 24 to three. I don’t think you can get a much better start than that.
No, although
John Cashman: you weren’t very relaxed.
Tim Cashman: I get relaxed when I watch the game at the end of the next day. ,
John Cashman: yeah, I was, I was equally as impressed, , I thought they came out in rhythm. I thought that Seattle looked tired, , that, , they looked a step behind, especially on defense, but the Niners looked like they wanted to take care of business, get a two game lead in the West.
And then enjoy 10 days off before they go to Philly. And it looks like they really had that on their mind. , I know with the exception of the third quarter where they were letting Seattle breathe, it was pretty dominant. So, , we’ll have to look at reviewing our keys for victory. First one was get the crowd out of the game.
They started fast. Right down the field, touchdown. , I thought it was good. , But Spencer Burford did not start in the O line. Brian, thoughts on the O line? I mean, it was, I think it was better than Buccaneers, but.
Brian Caynan: Definitely, you know, I, I was looking at the stats. I think they only gave up one, technically one sack to.
Yeah, one sack. To, to Purdy. So, you know, generally they, they did their job. , but you can tell just kind of watching the game, there were a couple of times, like. More parties, quick feet and quick thinking kind of got him out of it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but you know, it, it held up. It definitely held up better.
You’re right, John versus the Buccaneers. And I don’t have the numbers in front of me in terms of how many yards we got on the ground. , but it looked like it definitely held up. , you know, Trent Williams was as dominant as ever. ,
Tim Cashman: 169 yards rushing is what the 49ers had on the ground. There you go.
John Cashman: Yeah, not exactly a bad day at the office. Any thoughts on the O
Tim Cashman: line? Yeah, I, uh, I would say I was surprised, number one, uh, that Banks played and Buford did not. But when you put 169 yards on the ground, you’re able to dictate the tempo. You’re able to keep the Seattle defense on the field for a long time.
In the time possession, the 49ers had 35 and a half minutes, Seattle had 24. , so that tells you the story right there that 49ers, particularly in the first half, were able to control the clock. I think they were frustrating the Seattle defense, , with the, I don’t want to say the ease of moving the ball, but they were definitely in rhythm, they were definitely in tempo.
We saw Seattle’s defense get frustrated in the second quarter. , there was that, , there was that sideline shot of I guess you’d call it a team meeting. , and even Niners Nation pointed out, that is a sign that things are not going well. , so, you know, when you have that, you have belief in your offense, , you go in and out the half.
The Niners, yeah, and they had a chance to really, you know, really slam the door shut, I think, in the third quarter. But, you know, pick six, Seattle gets back into the game, and, you know, at that point, , it was, it was a little dicey. At points, you thought Seattle was going to make a game of it, , a couple of times, but Niners defense, uh, stiffened and, uh, that, uh, that dart to IUK, uh, well, and I’m not going to call it a dart.
That was just a terrific pass. That was the dagger. So, , great first half. You had sort of a You know, third quarter, but 49ers were able to win a key victory in a place, frankly, which, as John, you pointed out, this was the first time the 49ers had won back to back victories in Seattle ever. Yeah. So that’s a particular statistic ever, ever.
Wow.
John Cashman: Uh, and then we kind of get into the defense, which you mentioned. And we had thought it’s kind of a combination of two things. We always have turnovers as a key. , but how you get them are, it’s always a little bit different. And one of the keys we had is the corners and safeties had to play well.
And Brian, what did you think about Treverius Ward and Amory Thomas and J. R. Brown playing? You
Brian Caynan: know, that whole unit with Gibson and J. R. and Amory, uh, Mooney Ward, they all played great. Um, I’m just thinking to myself, you know, overall, they were covering, you didn’t hear much from Metcalf, and I think we have here in the notes here that Metcalf was targeted a few times, but he only had like three catches.
Nine times
Tim Cashman: he was targeted.
Brian Caynan: Yeah, they played really well. , you know, a couple calls that maybe could have been a hell, a hold. I saw that one on, uh, Ambry Thomas in the end zone that probably should have been called. But, you know, I just think overall they, they played a really strong game. , no one seemed to take over from, you know, Gino didn’t seem to take over from a passing perspective.
And, , no, obviously they were missing Walker, so their running game was kind of, you know, in the middle. , but yeah, their corners and safeties were out there, and they, the Niners were, and they were definitely holding down Metcalf and Lockett. So… Yeah, I
John Cashman: thought Severius Ward had probably one of the best games he’s had as a Niner, and that was…
Coming off of what I thought was one of his best games against the Buccaneers. , you know, they clearly were going after Metcalf or, or trying to, he had, I don’t know how many tip passes and then Ambry Thomas got Tyra Lockett, who’s not exactly a scrub, and got an interception from him. So, I mean, really kudos to those guys.
, And you didn’t hear J. R. Brown’s name very much, which is good and bad. I mean, it’s, it’s good because it wasn’t picked on, but it’s bad because it’s like he didn’t make a ginormous play. , but yeah, it was, it was, it was encouraging that their, their defensive alignments, especially on the back end, are doing so well.
And Tim, you had this as a key to victory. Pete Carroll is known for his trick plays.
Tim Cashman: He is. Yeah, I just, I just, go ahead. I can only remember him
John Cashman: trying one and it didn’t work. That weird little flea flicker.
Tim Cashman: Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, Yeah, you know I go back to just I thought he was gonna try to pull something early, you know, and I go back to 2021, , when the 49ers were in Seattle.
I think I mentioned this on last week’s podcast where it was a fake punt early in the game and, , the 49ers had had what appeared to be a three and out early. So I thought, I would, I thought he would pull something, uh, early there, but I think the way the 49ers, , offense was, was rolling particularly in that first drive, , and the way Seattle’s offense really did not respond although they did get a field goal that short field.
, I think he may have had something in his back pocket but decided no, too much of a risk and I’ll either save it for another part of the game or, , for another time. Um, when we play these guys. So, but I, I do want to go back to, you know, just the game that, , the 49ers corners had. I mean, John, you and I watched the game and multiple times, , Gino tested the corners on deep routes.
And, you know, Ward had some great breakups. Um, Ambry Thomas had what I thought was a terrific interception. I think he was covering, , I think he was covering Lockett, but the only deep ball that really worked was in the third quarter. Seattle was backed up. It was a third down and we just saw an absolute fantastic catch by their rookie wide receiver from Ohio State, whose name I apologize, I’m going to butcher, but it’s, I’ll just say Smith.
I don’t want to say it. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Thank you. I’ll let Brian butcher it. I didn’t want to but , that was I think the, I think Seattle thought if we can get the the Niners corners uh, either on a, either a couple of times uh, that will spread, that will loosen things up. , we were able to maybe establish a running game, um, uh, since, uh, their, their starter, uh, walker was out, but, , that just did not work, but they kept testing it time and time again, and the 49er quarterbacks, uh, rose to the challenge, so, uh, but yeah, going back to the trick plays, I thought we would see something, but… You know, I think, , not only was it just, uh, Pete Carroll couldn’t find the right circumstance, but You were not dealing with Geno Smith at 100 percent. He was coming off a pretty banged up arm , I thought his throws in the first quarter were not as Crisp as we had seen them before.
, and you know, really the, the, the only touch, I mean, well, the, really the, the 49er defense allowed six points and I think you could, you know, put an asterisk around that one was a pick six, obviously the other, they had a short field to work with. So the 49er defense that just shows you how dominant they were.
Yeah.
John Cashman: And then last but not least, , and we’ve had this as a key to victory many times, and it’s a, kind of a weak point sometimes with Kyle, is close the game. I can’t tell you how long that third quarter was. It just seemed to last forever. , But Hurdy delivered one of the best throws I’ve seen in a long time to put the coffin nail in.
And. I’m still not sure how he did it or why, how he was able to say, Oh, that’s between four guys. And I’m just going to put this dot as I said it, but wow, he just put the league on notice, like I could put this ball right here and what are you going to do about it? So I can only hope that, , That’s not needed and come from behind victory in the days ahead.
Tim Cashman: . You know, in terms of that, , in terms of that play, I think, you know, we looked at that play two or three times. Well, I know, let’s be honest, we probably looked at it about five, six times. seven, maybe eight times.
, because we wanted to watch his, his pass. We want to watch his setup, but what later came out was that Iuke really was not an intended target, uh, on, on that particular play, on that touchdown. Shanahan himself said, you know, that Iuke was coming in really to spread the field. I mean, we saw over in the flat, I think he had, , I think he had Yushek was open.
Uh, I think he had McCaffrey, you know, on a, on a short route. , and it was, um, go ahead.
John Cashman: He had Uschek in the flat, McCaffrey on a short route, and Kittle was braking to the, , out near the top, but then he just threaded the needle to
Tim Cashman: Ayuk. Yeah. You know, and it’s, it’s a second and seven, and, you know, the 49ers were driving there on the Seattle, like, the 28 yard line.
I can see why Shannon called it. He wanted to keep the, he wanted to keep the play in front of, he wanted to get, , a shorter pass. He wanted to maybe, uh, take more time off the clock, , not produce a turnover, get some points, you know, get him up by 14, , with the field goal.
But Purdy saw the play develop, and then you said, John, he put the ball. In the absolute perfect, , place for only IU to get it, as you said, in the middle of four Seattle defenders, and we had talked about Purdy’s just anticipation of where his receivers are going to be. We saw that in the Dallas game when they had a couple of third and longs, , you know, when Purdy was able to salt the game away.
That’s just something that he has an absolute talent for. I think that’s what separates him from what Jimmy Garoppolo could do. I think if Garoppolo’s in that situation, he throws short. , but that was the dagger in the heart. And I just, every week we just, we look at Purdy and we go, Wow, we hit the powerball on that one.
John Cashman: Bart, any other final thoughts on Seattle before we move to the stars of the game?
Brian Caynan: Well, you guys mentioned it already, but that, that Jackson Smith and, and Jigba one handed snag in the third quarter was just, that was just, I mean, we were watching the game. I mean, they were showing that compared to, uh, Odell Beckham and his, uh, one handed catch.
So that was pretty, pretty amazing. , I think as for Seattle themselves, , you know, I can’t speak for how it is in the locker room, but it, it, I don’t know how, how deflated they were after that Seattle loss in, in LA. Um, you know, the weekend before when they missed the field goal, , you know, that, that I have to assume probably impacted them some sort of way.
, but overall, I mean, their linebackers look pretty strong as the guy Brooks, , was lined up against with, , Gosh, who’s there? Bobby Wagner. And I forgot he actually was at the Rams last year. , because his name is so synonymous with Seattle. But, um, they seem to be having a good game and they’re, they’re, I remember hearing their names a lot during, during the game.
So, , you know, nothing to hang their hats, , down on, but I think they’re going to really show up in about two weeks time. So when we see them in two weeks, I think we got to be prepared. , you know, this is probably just. You know, an aberration of them for now, but, uh, they’re definitely going to come to play in two weeks when we see them down at Levi’s.
So, , but overall kind of a good game for the Niners and, uh, you know, Seattle’s going to come for us in two weeks.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, absolutely. And I, I think, you know, going to your point, uh, Brian, about, um, a deflating, uh, moment for them against the Rams was they were in control of that game, uh, for, for so much of it, and it just seemed like, uh, everything just fell apart at the end, and they were in a, , they were in a great position to win at the end, but, , missed field goal, and, uh, they played the Niners on a short break.
It certainly doesn’t get any easier for Seattle this week. Thursday night, they’re gonna play, it , the Cowboys, and I’ll, I’ll just, I’ll be honest with both of you. I don’t know who I’m maturing for in that game. I really don’t. It’s going to be a tough one. That’s going to be a tough one. I mean, I’ll certainly watch it, but I’m just gonna be like, who, who, what do I want to happen here?
So. I think we want. That’s surprising. I don’t, I can’t, no, I can’t, I can’t do it, John. I, I, but I can’t do it. I’m just going to be watching the game, like, maybe Dak tweaks a hand. No, I can’t say that. That’s definitely right. But it’s just, no, it’s just like hoping for a tie. Yeah. A tie would work, I guess.
It’s
Brian Caynan: surprising. Seattle’s playing again on, well, actually Dallas is playing on a Thursday night too. So they had played on Thursday last
Tim Cashman: week. Yeah. So, yeah. And so I know we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves, but you know, Niners do play on Sunday. Seattle have a little bit of a break, um, coming back, , to play.
So, uh, you know, they may get some, like you said, maybe they’re starting running back comes back. We’ll have to see. We’ll have to see how Geno looks. , but I think Seattle’s in a pretty tough spot right now. They’re going up against, you know, a good Cowboys team. They could easily be coming in, uh, losing, uh, three straight, but, uh, we’ll watch Thursday night and see what’s what.
Yeah, and then they have a
pretty
John Cashman: good stretch of teams coming up. , they played the Eagles and, , so they’re, they’re going to be watching their backs on the Rams. It was the Rams that owned the record. And they’re only about a game out from making the playoffs. Yeah. So, and,
Tim Cashman: and they, and they took both, both, uh, matchups this year with the, with, , Seahawks.
Mm-Hmm, . All right. Stars of the game. We’ve talked enough about Seattle . Well, Tim,
John Cashman: since you’re so both ,
Tim Cashman: who is your star of the game? Who is my star? Well, I, I’m going to start with my honorable mentioning, and that was Juan Jennings. He had one catch in the game, but it was such an amazing effort on his part.
. It was third and seven. , Niners were up 7 3. Third and seven from, uh, the 26th. , Purdy, uh, I think gets rustled a bit. He throws it, he throws to Jennings, and for a moment it’s like, well he’s a yard behind the, the first down marker.
And, um, but then I thought, but this is Juwan Jennings. And then, And then what, what happens? The NBC analysts say, well, he’s not going to make like that was immediately the kiss of death for Seattle because he alludes one guy, I think twice. And then doing what Jawan does powers through and, you know, just uses his body, his natural strength and gets it.
Key first down, which ends up, , you know, that drive ended up, ended up, uh, McCaffrey touchdown. , I just, I loved that play so much because it was needed. It was, it was a, it was a moment that Niners were really starting to let Seattle know, Hey, this could be a long night. And then we’ve seen Jennings do it before and to have that kind of, , that kind of weapon on the third down, uh, it’s just tremendous.
Third and Juwan. Third and Juwan.
John Cashman: Brian, you’re star of the game.
Brian Caynan: I’m going to go with, uh, back to the corners and the safety. So, , I know we, we touched on them as, as kind of points in, in the beginning, but, , we’re going to talk about Gibson. He had a sack in, I think, the first quarter to, um, you know, that’s probably something maybe Isaiah Oliver or Hufanga would normally get, but he got a sack early.
, Let’s see, then there’s also Mooney Ward, Tavares Ward, he had, I think, three, if I have this, passes deflected, and then Ambry Thomas had two, , Ambry Thomas had the pick, , and they both had a couple tackles, but I think, , Ward had like five. So, I think just overall, we talked about this, I think all, just whoever was playing safeties and corners, they had a really good game lined up.
Steve Wilks kind of, uh, got them prepped, , so that’s my star of the game, , the safeties in the corners, stepping up, um, You know, with Hufanga going out, , that’s my star of the game. That whole unit. So,
John Cashman: my star of the game goes to CMC, aka Cyborg, aka Frankenstein. He will not stop until he gets a touchdown.
What a warrior. , there’s two things that come out of that. , obviously his helmet broke. So they’re on the sidelines screwing in bolts into his head, it looks like. And he’s just like, yeah, no big deal.
Tim Cashman: Um, and the other is… It’s for like, it’s gonna be a meme for the next ten years. Oh yeah, it’s
John Cashman: like, Seattle?
No problem. Um… I need a double screwdriver stat. Uh, and by the way, I think Chris Collinsworth was drunk during
Tim Cashman: that game. I think they were, yeah, go ahead, we’ll talk about that in a moment. Yeah, the
John Cashman: , the other was, , on Instagram, his girlfriend posted, he was like walking around. Why do they have white sheets?
I have no idea, but he’s like bleeding all over the sheets, and he had these bruises and all this stuff, and it looked like he had a couple cocktails too. So, it’s like, what? He’s taking, he’s taking a beating, but man, he just keeps going, and going, and going, and… Yeah, I’m kind of now come to expect that he is just going to get his 20 touches and he’s gonna keep doing it and keep playing at that high level, but man, , I just hope he can last because he is just so much fun to watch.
Anytime he gets the ball, it could be a touchdown. So, , Tim, any other stars of the
Tim Cashman: game? Well, I think we got to go to Steve Wilkes, , ever since he came down, uh, from the, uh, from the coaches, uh, booth down to the sidelines, I think we’ve seen a, , more improved, uh, 49er defense. Of course, getting Chase Young also, , helps as well, but, , it just seemed like the 49ers, uh, were just out of alignment, uh, in our three losses, and they’ve just looked much more, , focus much more on tempo.
We’re not seeing, we’re not seeing, , penalties, uh, at the worst possible time. We’re just seeing a very focused, uh, hard playing unit. And, you know, I mean, that that first half, I mean, Seattle had a whopping 56 yards, total net yards in the first half, um, time of possession, 49 of 22 minutes, Seattle 7, uh, 6 sacks, they really allowed 3.
6 if you, you know, as I said, if you count the, uh, the short field that they, that they got as well, , so this unit is starting to play well at the right, um, At a perfect time because we’re getting into our marquee games. , playoff picture will start coming into focus, uh, as these games go on. So kudos to Steve Wilks.
Yeah. Doesn’t it feel like there’s a lot more energy? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, uh, as, as we pointed out against the Bengals, Niners just looked tired and maybe it was the bye week or maybe it was just getting, you know, guys, uh, grouped together, , but there’s a lot more, uh, just, I think just enthusiasm, , and competitive.
I, I, I, no, competitive is not the word because I’m not gonna, I’m not ever going to say Fred Warner is not competitive. Um, but yeah, I just think there’s just a great amount of just, energy on the, on that defense, you know, they, they want to come in, they want to dominate him.
Brian Caynan: I forgot to mention, John, one other star of the game was, , his name, Derek Lutter, that special teams guy who, , who saved that touchdown.
Yeah, yeah. So that was one other, um, you know, I think you only got one play in because these special teams, but that was, uh, that was one star or one play of the game that, , I like to make sure we, we shout out because that was a touchdown in the making, , and everyone could see it.
John Cashman: Yeah, he found another gear.
So I’ll be the homer,
Tim Cashman: Brock Purdy. Okay. I mean,
John Cashman: we’re obviously playing like, who’s gonna be, who’s gonna do Brock Purdy again at the start of the game, but, , very good effort. , What was impressive was that, that cough and nail, , throw. And if you’re that kind of baby faced assassin. Great. That’s what we need you for.
, I did find out, which was nice to know, is that, that thing he’s been wearing on his arm, , when he’s sitting on a bench, is basically a glorified heating pad. It just keeps his arm warm when it’s cold out. So I’m like, okay, I can, I can handle that.
Tim Cashman: Because, it’s like, what’s wrong with Brock? Yeah, well, you know, I think, 49ers injury history.
And particularly last year with our quarterbacks, we tend to look at anything that could be a potential red flag.
John Cashman: So Tim, as our resident Seattle hater,
would you like to give any honorable mentions to any Seahawks?
Tim Cashman: Yeah, I gotta give it to, , to Jackson Smith, uh, whose name I will butcher, right? Nejigma. Thank you. , you gotta give credit where credit is due, and that was a spectacular catch. , he’s a rookie, so, , you know, I, I don’t know what the contract situation is, uh, with But, you know, he’s obviously been brought in as, uh, someone to, I think, uh, eventually, uh, replace them, , at least one of them.
, so, you know, he could be, he could be someone that 49ers have to worry about. So, but, you know, you, you, you have to tip your hat at certain points, to, uh, your competition. And that was definitely a moment. Uh, to
Brian Caynan: John, Tim, one, one other item I, you were talking about Steve Wilks, but I was just kind of thinking about this.
. The defense only didn’t, didn’t give up any touchdowns. So they only gave him two field goals. So, , you know, one thing we kind of, I think over the saying was that they, they, that touchdown was on the offense and that pick six, but it was just two field goals. Yeah, or that. So,
Tim Cashman: yeah. Yeah, they
John Cashman: play great.
All right. Well, it’s all sunshine lollipops. It’s Cy time.
Tim Cashman: Sunshine lollipops in. Sorry.
Where can we improve,
John Cashman: Brian? Because we’re playing a pretty good team.
Brian Caynan: Well, I mean if you look at this game, I mean, obviously the glaring thing is the pick six, right? So that’s probably what everyone and it’s gonna look at. So , rock and That’s probably the one blemish, right, that everyone can kind of forget.
So I would say if it’s at all possible, throw it out of bounds. But yeah, you just can’t force it that close. , backed up in your own end zone. Um, or almost your own end zone.
John Cashman: It’s the kind of mistake that used to drive us crazy about Jimmy G. Mm
Tim Cashman: hmm. So… Yeah, John, go ahead.
John Cashman: No, I was gonna say, what are your thoughts?
Tim Cashman: Well, yeah, I mean, there was something, that was the only time I saw Purdy rushing his throws. Because, I mean, given the situation, , Seattle had, had punted and pinned the Niners deep, they were on their own four. , the 49ers in, in both first down and second down, they started out, you know, pretty misunderstood, and then they shifted and he was in a shotgun.
, the first throw, he tried to hit Debo, , out on the left side, and he missed him, and he, and I just thought the throw would just look… Look, he was trying to rush it, and I was hoping that Shanahan would either go to CMC on the next play or maybe do a rollout. They had, we’re in a similar situation against Tampa Bay, where he did have pretty raw, and he hit Kittle on the flat, and Kittle was able to get, I think, 12, 15 yards, but they were able to, , get out of the shadow of their own end zone.
, and John, again, you and I looked at the play, , where Pretty through, it looked like he was trying to, well, first of all, we looked at the play from the end zone and we saw that, , Kittle, you know, was in sort of the middle zone of the defense, uh, there was a nice window to him, and we both saw, you know, if Purdy threw it at a certain point, he was going to hit Kittle for about, I think, probably 20 yards minimum, , but that window, I think he felt that the Seattle safety was coming over, that window was going to close, he went to his Safety valve, which was McCaffrey coming over on the underneath route.
And he just threw a high pass that glanced off his, hands. And obviously Seattle, you know, picked it off, returned it for a touchdown. But a again. I wasn’t wild about them shifting into a shotgun formation. , I think, you know, in that case, 24 3 could have been a little more conservative with your play calls.
But, you know, as it is, , we know that football is complementary. The 14 hour defense were able to pretty much shut down, uh, Seattle. Uh, for the rest of the second half and they did get one field goal though as Brian mentioned, but um, uh, pretty, you know, they were able to shake it off and through, you know, the the pass of the game to Iuke in the fourth quarter.
So yeah, uh, yeah, I mean that’s that’s the one area we looked at. Yeah, Purdy’s
John Cashman: Goldfish. He’s got no memory. Yeah. So, , final thoughts on Seattle,
Brian Caynan: Brian? , as I kind of mentioned before, we’ll see them again in two weeks. So, I think the Niners do have to have a short memory about this. They know how to win.
, but I also know Seattle knows how to win, too. So, you know, they’ll be back for more, uh, in two weeks time. So, good win today. Or, good win this weekend. , but, uh. I think we’ll be ready for them in two weeks. Yeah,
Tim Cashman: I’m looking forward
John Cashman: to this game as much as, uh, Denim.
Tim Cashman: Again, again, um, my, my, my big thanks, uh, to the 49ers for, for winning on Thanksgiving.
John and I ended up having a wonderful rest of our holiday. We could just watch football and enjoy it and eat some great food, spend time with our, well, you know, spend time with our family when we weren’t watching football. , and enjoy the rest of our Thanksgiving. Yeah,
John Cashman: I, I thought, um, the Niners just like one step ahead.
They, they pretty much dominated that game with the exception of the third quarter and we’ve got, you know, a long ways to go and when we play Seattle again, they’re coming off a 10 day buy. Uh, so we’ll see, but you know, next up is Philadelphia, but before we get to Philadelphia. It’s Niners Trivia Time with Brian.
Is it
Brian Caynan: Rocky themed? It is not Rocky themed, it is Philly themed. So, uh, all right, let’s do this. Okay, so You know, Rocky was a, Rocky
John Cashman: was a Niners fan. It’s a little known fact.
Tim Cashman: Okay, John.
Brian Caynan: I did not
Tim Cashman: know that. Um, You know Drago is a Seahawks fan? I don’t think we need to equate the
John Cashman: Soviet Union with Seattle. Although some Republicans might. So…
Tim Cashman: Go ahead, Brian. This is going to get us into trouble. Alright.
Brian Caynan: , I’m going to name these eagle stars. Pastor present, and you tell me guys which school they went to for college, right?
All
Tim Cashman: right. All right.
Brian Caynan: , I’ll start first with an easy one. Brian Westbrook. I like a villain.
All right. Randall Cunningham. John, you’re first. College
John Cashman: with a degree program. I have no idea.
Randall Cunningham. Wow.
Tim Cashman: All right. Tim? Randall Cunningham. I do not know.
Brian Caynan: I’ll give you, uh, it’s a west coast school. I don’t remember. I was surprised when I actually,
John Cashman: I don’t remember. I’m at UCLA or
Tim Cashman: USC. Neither do I. Um, or Oregon or, or any of those. Oh, Western
Brian Caynan: State School. I should say a Western state school.
Tim Cashman: , UNLV.
Brian Caynan: Le Donovan. Donovan McNabb, Syracuse. Yeah. Okay. Nick Foles, Arizona. That’s right. Reggie
John Cashman: White? I
was just reading about Reggie White, too.
Tim Cashman: I want to say, went to Memphis
John Cashman: State.
Yeah, you might be right. I was reading, uh, completely, there’s a great book, , out right now from a guy named Michael Lombardi called Football Done Right. He lists his top 100. Reggie White was like number three. Um, yeah. And he lived in Knoxville. So,
Tim Cashman: I’m going to go to the University of Tennessee. No, you’re Tennessee.
Tennessee. You know, I said Memphis because that was the USFL team he played for. , Last one. But that wasn’t the, that wasn’t the question Brian asked. Jalen
John Cashman: Hurts. Oh, he played for Alabama and Oklahoma. There you go.
Brian Caynan: Okay. Alright, moving on.
John Cashman: I don’t see how that’s Niners trivia. I just,
Brian Caynan: I just thought this was fun.
I just thought these were fun things to ask. Um, okay. Here’s a good one. Uh, Brian and Neil Kanan’s first football game they ever went to was against the Eagles in November of 1992. Tim, since I know you’re the resident encyclopedia slash dictionary, who won that game? The 49ers.
Tim Cashman: And can you tell me the score?
I’m gonna say 20 to 14.
Brian Caynan: Moving on. Uh, oh, John, do you have any, uh… No,
John Cashman: come on.
Tim Cashman: Five to two. Brian, not only do I, uh, not only remember that game, I took the Golden Gate Transit with you and Neil over from Larkspur Landing. It was also the night after my last high school football game. A game where I could have been something.
Actually, we lost to Eureka High School, so I’m just putting that out there, there. All I remember is, Eureka had these very large players, and I was in kind of a lot of pain the next day. Yikes. So, anyway. Alright. Sorry, complete side note, that was Tim being nostalgic. You know, I did play two years of high school football.
Makes me a total expert on the subject. Two
John Cashman: more years of Brian and I.
Tim Cashman: Combined.
Brian Caynan: Alright. Uh, which defensive tackle on that 92 Eagles team is now a broadcaster?
Tim Cashman: Clyde Simmons. Who? Well, it’s not Reggie White and it’s not Jerome Brown. Um. Howie Long. Howie. Long. . Howie Long, wrong team wrong. I know
John Cashman: it’s wrong.
Tim Cashman: Wrong you wrong. I who got close to it was he went to Villanova, which happened to be in the same state as the Eagles. So I don’t know where coming up with that.
John Cashman: this is a defensive tackle.
Brian Caynan: Oh, this person is a defensive tackle. Was that a guess, or was that a, uh… I say
John Cashman: Clyde Simmons. I’m saying Howie Long. Howie Long.
Tim Cashman: Okay.
Brian Caynan: Alright, Howie
Tim Cashman: Long and Clyde Simmons. You have better odds of winning Powerball, John.
Brian Caynan: Alright, last question. How did the Eagles get their name when they were first founded in the 30s?
John Cashman: Somebody in Philadelphia looked at it and Isaac Owen. Eagles.
I have no idea.
Tim Cashman: Tim? I do not know. That’s an excellent question, because they were one of the, I mean, one of the original NFL franchises. Well,
John Cashman: I mean, how many birds of prey are there,
Tim Cashman: really? Well, we have a sea hawk, we have a raven. There’s a specific
Brian Caynan: thing which gave it inspiration. There’s a specific,
Tim Cashman: think of the time.
I’ll say 1776, the bald eagle, , independence hall, freedom, something like that. All right, all right. We’ll take that. All right. Moving on.
John Cashman: So we’re in the middle of our weird bird schedule.
Tim Cashman: And we just had Turkey too. Yeah.
John Cashman: So, I mean, Seahawks, Eagles, Seahawks, Cardinals, Ravens, really strange.
It’s like Amazon’s AI is going, they’ll never notice this. So, so the Eagles and when I listened to the podcast, we went over the season. This was one we had also circled because of the NFC championship. Eagles are 10 1. They probably have the MVP playing
Tim Cashman: quarterback right now. I can’t argue with that. Yeah.
John Cashman: I’m gonna start with, with what I think. This is the first game that I’ve seen that I don’t know if the 49ers can win. And, uh, for a few reasons. One is… The weather’s not going to be that great. It’s in Philly, which is a really hard place to play. And Jalen Hurts just seems to have some kind of luck going on where he can lead people back.
And granted, Casey, the guy who dropped the ball and last week, the guy from the Bills ran the wrong way or Josh went the wrong way and the kicker missed two field goals. I don’t, that’s the only thing, it’s just like, there just seems to be some kind of blind luck going on with the Eagles right now that just gives me a sense of pause, like, I, I just, I don’t know how this team is winning.
That being said. I think the Niners match up very well against the Eagles. We have a very good offense, number one in the league, going against an okay Eagles defense. We have a very good, defense going against a pretty good Eagles offense. But those intangibles are kind of what gives me pause. So, Tim, your
Tim Cashman: thoughts?
Yeah, it’s, uh, two of the top teams in the league, uh, going at it. And… I, you know, John, I am, uh, you know, I’m the resident skeptic. So I feel like you stole my thunder a little bit. So I’m going to, I’m going to switch gears and be a little bit more optimistic. , I agree. Role reversal on Niners Talk. I know, role reversal.
It’s bizarro world all of a sudden here on Niners Talk. But I think, like you said, John, I think the 49ers match up, . Well, with the Eagles, I think they are a better team than the last time they played the Eagles, , in addition to having, uh, Chase Young, , the 49ers are also coming in with Javon Hargrave, , because last year uh, The 49ers defensive, um, middle of their defensive line really was gashed by, , the Eagles running game.
Uh, the Eagles were able to sustain, , some very long drives. Um, and you could just see Javon Kim Long, , really just getting moved around, uh, almost at will. , I think the Niners are going to have, uh, more success, , at least slowing down that Eagles running game. , I think, you know, Purdy is a more mature quarterback.
I think, you know, the, the throws that he, we’ve been seeing from him, , the last few weeks, , and in particular, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll point to two, obviously the one to Iyuk, , the pass to Iyuk against the Seahawks, but also the throw he had against the Jaguars to Kittle. , this guy can stay in the pocket. He can make…
Things happen. I think that will buy him just enough time. , and you know, I think the 49ers, you know, look, if the 49ers are going to be a serious playoff contender, this is a game that, , they need to make a statement. And we thought we saw it earlier this year against the Cowboys. But this is a game like, all right, the Eagles right now, you’re the top dog.
We’re coming in with our best. You’re coming in with your best. It’s it’s going to be game on. And as you said, I think the 49ers can really attack the Philly defense, particularly in in their middle zone. They’ve been suspect to that for most of the year. Uh, the Eagles have also been giving up, , a lot of running yardage over the last two weeks.
They only did it once, , but then they played, uh, both, , you know, the Bills, uh, as well as the, uh, Kansas City Chiefs, and both teams were able to run successfully. So, that’s something that Shanahan is definitely going to, , to want to attack. Um, so, I feel more confident this time around than I did in the Amnesty Championship, , just based on those factors.
So, with that, I gotta hand it over to Brian.
Brian Caynan: , I’m gonna be confident here as well. I, I think, you know, all of the… In addition to having, you know, Purdy back, , I think Shanahan’s gonna look at that game and, and, you know, make sure that, uh, he’s better, well protected, um, around the pocket, , if that’s everyone from Spencer Burford and Colton McKibbitz and, you know, Trent Williams, they gotta make sure they, uh, they do their assignments, , with Kittle out there, he’s definitely a great blocking tight end, So I think they’re, I think the experience of what they felt in the NFC Champion team is just only going to help them.
, you know, everyone’s playing now close to a hundred percent. , we did get Hargrave on the team, so he’s helping us and Randy Gregory, , from the defensive side. , I just think everything’s kind of lining up in our favor. So, , you know, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll see what happens, but I think, , you know, it’s not just, This isn’t just a regular game, I think, for both teams.
I mean, both teams have penciled this and circled this one. Um, they’re both talking trash all week. The players, you know, they, they say they don’t like each other, but, you know, maybe some of it’s a jest, maybe some of it’s not. But I think everyone’s going to step up, , kind of on both sides.
And, um, I do expect the Niners to come out there and, and, you know, hopefully take care of business this weekend. So, as they should. Yeah,
John Cashman: again, it’s the one thing and it’s to me, it’s just sometimes the intangibles and Jalen Hurts scenes, which he gets us to our keys to victory. And I think this is the biggest one.
They have to contain Jalen Hurts, of course, watching what he did against the bills. And I know he has some knee issues, but he came back after the buy and looked, looked pretty good, but he just has the ability to tear you up with his arm and.
Tire you up with his legs and what will be interesting will be how Steve Wilkes uses his linebackers Fred or Dre as a spy on Hertz Keep that middle of the field and at the same time guard Devonta Smith and AJ Brown That will be the chess match which I’ll be watching for on defense So, Brian, any other keys to victory?
Brian Caynan: , You know, just like we talked about in Seattle. If the Niners can start off hot, , you know, and score early as they, uh, have been doing pretty well this season, you know, they can, uh, get the crowd out of the game, , you know, just like they did in Seattle and, and other places. So I, I like them to try to score early.
, you know, the one thing with Philly also is they’re… not scared to go for it on fourth down. And, you know, that’s something we’ve watched kind of the last two years with Nick Sirianni. So even if it’s like a fourth and three or four, if it’s like on the 45, he’s going to go for it. And so I just want to make sure.
You know, the Niners, you know, they’re going to come well prepared, but just make sure they stop, , you know, those types of situations, because, you know, he’s, uh, Nick Sirianni, he’s great, and he’s pretty unconventional at times, but, , and I think that’s what makes him kind of, um, you know, a mover and shaker.
So we want to make sure we, uh, kind of stop that, , stop that part of the, uh, the Philly game. So. So that
John Cashman: brings us to, as Brian was alluding to, the push push, the brotherly shove, the Rugry Scrum. I think we’ll see Fred Warner go over the top.
Tim Cashman: Absolutely. I, and hopefully, you know, the 49ers, , don’t have too many situations where they will see that because I, I haven’t followed the statistics on the Tush push, but I have not seen it get stopped as of yet.
And I think the competition committee is going to evaluate that. Look at that play, , and see what, uh, what they want to, what they want to do with it. Because I, like I said, I don’t know if it’s 100%, but if it isn’t, it’s pretty well close. It’s, uh, it’s
John Cashman: 92%. I think, though, it gets back down to football basics.
Stop them on first down, or make first down longer. Yep. , get, you know, second and long, third and long, because when they get in third and five or third and four, they’re like, oh, we got, we just need to get a couple yards because then we’re going to do the fourth down shove. Mm hmm. You know, if they, if they don’t get to third and five, third and four, then they’re not going to do it.
So the best way of stopping the brotherly shove is… Don’t let them get in a situation to have the brotherly shove. , they’re very good at doing those things to get them there. But I think the Niners have a very good opportunity using that. And again, the linebackers are going to have to have a day, , against Hertz, against Swift to keep them somewhat limited.
, which brings us to another key to victory, which is always a key to victory, which is turnovers. Yeah. And so far. The Niners have the best takeaways in the league. I think we got plus twenty one right now? Mhmm. And
Tim Cashman: let’s, let’s not also forget, Jalen Hurts, as good as he is, as concerning as he is, he’s also thrown ten interceptions so far this season.
Mhmm.
John Cashman: So, there is possibilities there. Uh, but let’s, let’s switch sides. So, Brian, Eagles offensive line, which obviously is part of the Tush Plusha brotherly shove. Very good. And last year we saw Javon Kinlaw get pushed around a little bit, had three big long drives against San Francisco, but they might be a little wounded coming in.
Lane Johnson’s, , didn’t play last, , week against the Bills. So this’ll be an interesting matchup. Your thoughts on their offensive line versus pretty stacked Niners defensive line now that we didn’t have Chase Young. Last year. He’s a new addition.
Brian Caynan: Yeah, I mean, I’m gonna go with wherever, you know, the stars are and the stars are with, are with our side. So, you know, we do have Bosa, , we do have Chase Young now, Eric Armstead, , Randy Gregory. So. I do see that as a matchup that we can win and we can dominate on that. So if we can dominate the line, if we can pressure, , Hertz, , if we can collapse the pocket and contain it, so he doesn’t make a, you know, a scramble or a run.
, that’s definitely something I think we can, we can take. Look to take advantage of, , as you guys noted, he did throw 10 picks. , so, you know, that’s something that we definitely can also exploit, just kind of rushing his throws and getting our corners and safeties ready to try to make those, uh, those plays on the backend.
So, , I do think John, that’s something that we can, can work on and we can dominate and, and, you know, hopefully win on Sunday,
John Cashman: which brings us to our last key to the victory, Tim. Can this offensive line give a pretty some time?
Tim Cashman: Uh, they better. Uh, otherwise the Niners are going to be in for a long day. , Yeah, I actually, I want to say, you know, two other things that, I mean, if you go back to the NFC Championship, , game, obviously we all know what happened with the quarterback, but, , the 49ers also had, uh, three fumbles, uh, I think they counted for ten Eagles, Eagles points, and certainly you do not want to give Jalen Hurts any sort of, uh, momentum, , or Shortfields to work with, because he’ll make you pay.
, the other, uh, key aspect was the Niners were penalized 11 times in that game. , and they had, I think I counted three or four defensively that just hurt quite a bit. Pass interference, , there was running into the kicker, there was, , illegal hands to the face, you know, all of those things.
Again, , you cannot keep giving, you cannot give Jalen Hurts second chances. That, so, I, I think that’s another key to victory that we had not written down, , prior, but, um, It’s just something like, you know, and the 49ers have the opportunities. They, they cannot have those kinds of penalties, , because they just, those are absolutely just momentum killers for your team, , and only as fuel for the fire for someone like, , for Hurts.
In the case of the 49ers offensive line, , we, I don’t, we haven’t gotten an injury update on, on, on Buford. Um, I would probably expect him to play in this game, , given I think he was a pretty close scratch against the Seahawks. , but Banks was back, uh, we’ve got Trent Williams, but… , we know that the interior line of the Niners, uh, has been a weak point, uh, for this offense, and I fully expect, , the Eagles to try to exploit that, and, and although Hargrave is now on, um, on our side.
Uh, the Eagles have what I think is a, is a, is a pretty good, , rookie. Uh, and actually it was, it’s Jalen Carter who they, , drafted to replace Hargrave. , he’s got, uh, he’s gonna be a force to be reckoned with. And, and the Niners interior line needs to be ready for him. I think he’s had something like, uh, five or six tackles for loss.
, so far this season. , and then we also know, you know, the other guy you got to worry about, you know, is Fletcher Cox. Uh, we don’t want to get into situations. , John, as you and I have, we noted, uh, when the 49ers get in first in longs, you know, that’s just going to give the Eagles the excuse to pin their ears back uh, and get after Purdy.
So, , yeah, the 49ers can limit their penalties, hopefully get some turnovers. , and not put themselves, , behind the sticks, uh, early. Uh, I think they’ve got a great shot at this game.
John Cashman: Yeah, it’s gonna be a game, as some, one of the procrastinator talking heads said, it’s filet mignon
Tim Cashman: for all of us, uh, because,
John Cashman: you know, it’s the two, two of the best, if not the two best teams going up against it, so.
Brian Caynan: And, and I’m sure there’s also this time, , Kyle won’t be afraid to throw the challenge flag early. . So I’m sure a lot of people are going to get in his ear. Um, kind of about that and maybe calling timeouts. Kind of if it’s early in the game, use it. So, yeah.
John Cashman: Well, that then brings us to the answers to Niners slash Eagles trivia.
BRian, you want to let us know how we fared?
Brian Caynan: Sure. All right. So name the schools of these eagles, legends. All right. Randall Cunningham.
Tim Cashman: I thought you said Ryan Westbrook. Oh
Brian Caynan: yeah, sorry. Ryan Westbrook. Ryan Westbrook. He was number one. That was easy, Villanova.
Tim Cashman: Yeah, there you go. I’ve got the degree behind me to prove it, no.
Not his degree, my degree, nevermind.
Brian Caynan: Uh, Randall Cunningham?
Tim Cashman: I think I said UNLV, I have no idea. Dude, that was it, you were right. Are you kidding me? Use a run and rev. You, oh my god.
John Cashman: I didn’t, I had not, I didn’t have a clue. He just showed up as an eagle one day. I’m like,
Tim Cashman: that’s, that John, that’s seriously like, I have no idea how to play craps, , in a casino.
That’s me just literally throwing a chip down and being like, oh, it hit that. That’s how 3, 000. I love it. How does this place stay in business? So,
Brian Caynan: uh, okay. Donovick McNabb, Syracuse. Okay. Right. Uh, Nick Foles, Arizona. Yeah, and previously he was at Michigan State. So, , I did not know that he was at MSU. Uh, Jalen Hurts.
Alabama and Oklahoma. Yeah, , Westbrook, Villanova, and then the great Reggie White.
Tim Cashman: I said Memphis State, but then I think we changed it to University of Tennessee. It was Tennessee. You’re right about that. Good one.
Brian Caynan: Alright. , okay, so I talked about me and my brother’s first football game was November 29th, 1992 against the Eagles.
, what was the score of that game? Of course Tim, the encyclopedia, knows it. It was 20 to 14. Um, uh, Steve Young had two throwing touchdowns and Mike Koeffer kicked two field goals and then Randall Cunningham had two touchdowns
Tim Cashman: himself. So… And Jerry Rice tied, uh, Steve Largent in that game for most touchdown receptions.
He broke it the next week against the dolphins. What’d you have to eat? Uh, probably my usual. I had two hot dogs with sauerkraut, ketchup, mustard and onions and a coke.
And it cost me probably a whopping $11 and 37 cents. .
John Cashman: Now it cost you about $408.
Brian Caynan: Okay. Uh, which defensive tackle on the 92 Eagles is now a sports broadcaster?
Tim Cashman: I was like, why does someone say
Brian Caynan: it? It’s actually Mike Golick, uh,
Tim Cashman: Oh yeah, yeah, I He, I think he had a couple like, uh, sitcom episodes as well. He, his brother, Bob
Brian Caynan: is actually the actor who,
Tim Cashman: Oh, it’s more of an actor. Okay.
Yeah. So I didn’t, I didn’t realize they were related.
Brian Caynan: So Mike and Bob, they’re related, but his, both went to Notre Dame. Uh, but his brother, Bob got into acting a little bit. And, uh, he’ve always played like, The coach or the ex player or the uh, you know, that’s
Tim Cashman: so you’re saying he was tight cast. Yes
Brian Caynan: Yes, he was his brother bob by the way was on this one show.
I saved by the bell.
Tim Cashman: Uh, The college years. I watched it. He was
Brian Caynan: a um He was like an ra or something like that, but he played in a former x49er
Tim Cashman: I I was I really wasn’t watching it for him. I was watching it for tiffany amber theason. Just just fyi. I when I thought that’s what I think we all were.
Brian Caynan: Alright, last question. How did the Eagles get their name? We have no idea. Uh, it’s a time in history. So it’s the 1930s. It just basically, okay, I’ll just say it. It drew inspiration from the Blue Eagles logo of the National Recovery Association, part of FDR’s New Deal policies. Get out of town! I just
Tim Cashman: thought it was like a really interesting thing.
That’s a great, no, that is a great historical trivia, um, aspect. Huh. All right.
John Cashman: There you go. That’s it. Eagles. Not sure how they’re spelled I G G L E S, but whatever. Final thoughts, Brian. It’s a
Brian Caynan: big game. We will win the game if we can control the line of scrimmage, if CMC can get some yards and… Purdy hopefully doesn’t make any mistakes.
So that’s all I’m kind of hoping for this weekend. You know, I think a lot of us, I remember that game, we just want payback from January of this year. And, um, you know, um, I think we’ve, we’ve improved, , we’ve gotten better. , and we’re kind of peaking right now. I kind of at the right time again. So I know we were peaking early.
Fell off, and I think we’re on our way back to, , to being something special. So, we’ll see. Alright, Tim?
Tim Cashman: John, this is a game that, you know what, you bring in Chase Young for a reason. You sign Nick Bosa to a multi year contract for a reason. You get, you bring in CMC. , you signed Kittle, you signed Deebo, you have IUK in a contract here.
These are the games that your stars need to produce. And these are the types of games that those stars want to play in, and they want to be the factor. , it’s put up or shut up time, uh, for both teams. Yes, I know the Eagles are 10 1, Niners are 8 3. Huge playoff implications, but this is why we play the game.
So…
John Cashman: , back when the Niners had their, their latest Super Bowl run, 2019, , both Tim and Brian ran the Honolulu Marathon. This weekend, coming up, they’re running the California International Marathon out of Sacramento. I think we’re gonna have a little deja vu. I think this game is going to be like the Saints game.
It’s going to be a just crazy, crazy game. The last, one of the last times that Jalen Hurts and Brock Purdy faced off in college, Iowa State versus Oklahoma, I think it was like 52 to 53. I get the feeling that these guys are going to show out. It’s going to be, , more of a track meet than we think it’s going to be, and it’s going to be one of those games where you’re just like,
So I, I don’t do predictions. We don’t do predictions. I just think it’s going to be deja vu all over again from the marathon and I just beat the saints that day. So hopefully Brian and Tim after writing so far for so long, we’ll be nestled up with a cheeseburger and be saying. John was right. And on that note…
Tim Cashman: I am so hoping for that. Yes.
John Cashman: Yeah. Well, I thank all of you who have been listening. I’m John, joined by my brother Tim and my brother from another mother, Brian. We’re looking forward to recapping the Eagles game next week. In the meantime, keep the faith. We’re out, Niners Nation.
